man did a twitter search on #mrcee
how fucking shameful hip hop
Yeah, without trying to turn this into a thing about race, I always forget just how homophobic large portions of the African-American community are.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, yeah, plenty of homophobes of all races, but there is an ingrained cultural thing in the African-American community that rears its head when stuff like this happens.
communities that feel threatened demographically are usually pretty homophobic and anti-abortion. it's like a self-preservation/MUST PROCREATE AT ALL COSTS kind of thinking
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
(and yeah duh obviously not unique to black community)
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, April 7, 2011 5:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
nice try not turning this into a thing about race
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
ha max
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic65OSynCf8
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you ever just lay off dude? I'm sorry, I'll try to talk to my friend who teaches minority studies to provide me with specific references I can cite next time.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
if you dont want this to be a thing about race, dont bring race up!
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
the mr. cee story is straight SVU
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe we can somehow merge this really fruitful discussion with sarahel's investigation into the downlow community?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe we could just drop it for a change?
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
jeezo anyway i just thought it was sad to see all these hip hop fans on twitter making #mrcee jokes and basically shitting on the poor dude.
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ otm
Sorry guys, I'll drop it and, yeah, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place. But to try and pretend that race has absolutely nothing to do with homophobia in hip-hop is on some pretty huge blinders on shit. Not that this is the right place to hold such a discussion, but, still.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, yeah, plenty of homophobes of all races, but there is an ingrained cultural thing in the African-American community that rears its head when stuff like this happens.― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, April 7, 2011 10:25 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, April 7, 2011 10:25 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
assumed this was a platonic troll post tbh
― caek, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry guys, I'll drop it
This is all you need to have said.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link
WTF. Its a legitimate issue that ties in directly to what this thread is all about!
smh
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, without trying to turn this into a thing about race you are probably right.
― caek, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
You guys are so fucking infuriating sometimes.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
you are trying really hard not to turn this into a thing about race! and i appreciate that
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
without trying to turn this into a thing about jon /via/ chi 2.0 freaking out all the time, i hope jon /via/ chi 2.0 chills out itt
― ℯℳℴ ❤\(◕~◕✿ (some dude), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm just confused is all. Iirc, nothing I said was offensive or inflammatory.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
yes it was actually
I don't really know what is more infuriating:
- watching the social construct of hip-hop culture equated with the larger social construct of the African-American community- watching a social attitude within that community get linked especially to both that social construct and that genetic group, even though it also exists in most every (if not every, no qualifiers) other ethnic social construct in the country- as a member of that community, getting relegated to invisible man status by the asshole making pronouncements about me
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
like, there are plenty of ways to talk about homophobia in hip-hop without making a "not to be all about race, but it bums me out that this is what black people do" comment that even five seconds of thought could have led you to
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, its just been on my mind because I was having dinner with this weekend with a friend that lectures on these very topics and she was filling me in on the long history of homophobia in the African-American community. Iirc, my posts above clarified that homophobes were found in all sorts of groups!
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, my post came from a genuince place, whether it came out that way or not. I had a legitimate discussion about this the other night and I've been thinking about it since.
what does a "long history of homophobia" even look like
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
America, basically
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
ya I was gonna sayseems like it would be basically indistinguishable from a "long history of living in a nation where homosexuality is criminalized/otherwise not tolerated"
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Alright, I was trying to bring up what I thought was a valid discussion in relation to the Mister Cee incident and this topic in general, apparently I framed it horribly. I'm sorry.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
we're all sorry :)
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I am a White Lesbian Rapper. I just Finished my first song Touche'D. I am working with Matt Dr. Fink Formerly of Prince. He is helping me and we are writting beats together. I however maintain my own spacing and aranging or my lyrics. My second song is going to be callled Fine Like Wine.Touche'D talk about a girl I was once close to and how shes acting shady on me now "So When are you gonna come and see me HU? when youve filled you girlfriend quota? Travled all over the world but Minnesota? Dont matter if I say pop or soda... Dont matter if you say Hella or really cuz years from now Im still gonna be me. Only differance is you might not see me cuz when you cant have me sure wanna be with me... no wanna be seen with me? better look in the mirror before you turn Touche'D ... Touche' Lady , take a hit flip the script and become slim shady.. dont matter if your dating a B**ch or a ladie cuz when you wanna ask me out im gonna say maybe"Sone of the topics I talk about on my upcoming CD White Lesbian Rapper will be Lesbian topics such as: Hurt by ex gfs, a song about Jeeps (popular gay automobile), lesbian trends such as Jocks and abercrombie and Fitch jeans, with girls in pony tails, being broke, kinky cop sex, complation of naming of old school song titles talking about all the songs that remind you of one person from back in the day.You may email me at Crookedluv✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧ for more info― Alicia Leafgreen, Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:51 PM (4 years ago)
Touche'D talk about a girl I was once close to and how shes acting shady on me now "So When are you gonna come and see me HU? when youve filled you girlfriend quota? Travled all over the world but Minnesota? Dont matter if I say pop or soda... Dont matter if you say Hella or really cuz years from now Im still gonna be me. Only differance is you might not see me cuz when you cant have me sure wanna be with me... no wanna be seen with me? better look in the mirror before you turn Touche'D ... Touche' Lady , take a hit flip the script and become slim shady.. dont matter if your dating a B**ch or a ladie cuz when you wanna ask me out im gonna say maybe"
Sone of the topics I talk about on my upcoming CD White Lesbian Rapper will be Lesbian topics such as: Hurt by ex gfs, a song about Jeeps (popular gay automobile), lesbian trends such as Jocks and abercrombie and Fitch jeans, with girls in pony tails, being broke, kinky cop sex, complation of naming of old school song titles talking about all the songs that remind you of one person from back in the day.
You may email me at Crookedluv✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧ for more info
― Alicia Leafgreen, Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:51 PM (4 years ago)
slept on post
― buzza, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I told a friend a few months ago to perform an experiment: imagine listening to songs, 97% of which are not written by, for, or to you.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
"a song about Jeeps (popular gay automobile)"lmfao
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm just bummed because I truly meant this from a good place and I'm catching a lot of flak, when other posters have spouted a lot of intentionally hateful stuff without this much abuse for it.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
eh, I dunno what to tell you — when life gives you lemons... don't make it about race
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
this is probably pertinent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJoabhPLDU
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I think you meant to say "probably excellent"
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
this board has a long sad history of jonophobia, but at this point I don't know if there's anything any one of us can do about it, it's a pretty institutionalized mentality
― ℯℳℴ ❤\(◕~◕✿ (some dude), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
free mr. cee
― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
WTF dude?
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
JOKES BRUV
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean jeez
"We're going to make fun of you for taking things too personally, but then we're going to keep addressing you specifically by name."
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
jon if you make an authoritative claim that a group of people has an ingrained cultural attitude and then say, "don't ask me to back up what i'm saying at all" and then act all victimized when others take offense at your generalization...i mean.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, I apologize again for the way it was framed.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I would like to know when I pissed in some dude's cornflakes though, he really seems to have it in for me.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
it was such a mild zing, clearly kindly intentioned!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
jon, I like you: go get a drink.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
that's the weirdest drinking game ever, Alfred
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link