http://nahright.com/news/2008/02/04/we-just-think-we-better/
it's in there
yeah i remember you reviving the wg4c 2 thread. i think ethan/deej/al/rev(?) think they're garbage though
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 February 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
fyi a few songs on there are mislabeled. switch the one called "good morning" w/ the one that has the actual "good morning" beat. same for "roc boys". those are the only ones i caught though.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 February 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
sweet got it
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 4 February 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
i like clipse
― max, Monday, 4 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i like clipse (sometimes)
― The Reverend, Monday, 4 February 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
still so embarassed at how amped i was about hhnf. luster wore off after about a week, but i'd already called it my #1 cause i suck at the teat of hype.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link
but i will listen to this and probably like it.
but hey at least i haven't posted on that vampire weekend thread
clipse are good, the hype far far outweighs everything tho ... they are not the second coming of epmd or something
― deej, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
the whole idea that they released THE BEST RAP ALBUM OF THE YEAR ISNT IT CRAZY HOW MUCH BETTER THIS IS THAN 99% OF RAP??? is what's so absurd about everything. I enjoyed a bunch of the tracks on their second album, but the whole overanalysis of their lyrics, everyone picking apart generic references to bapes, it just got really ridiculous
― deej, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link
srsly tho when is the second coming of epmd
― max, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link
lol yeah deej otm esp. since theyre basically just punchline rappers who know a lot of words that mean coke
― max, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean at least with cannibal ox, they sounded different than 99% of rap ... not better, but it made more sense that people would rally around it
― deej, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I think what was the most frustrating thing about The Great Clipse Herb-A-Thon 2006 for me was that their first album was, like, way better and no one gave a shit
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I do love me some Clipse tho. But I wouldn't want to admit it in the presence of corny indie fuxx0rs
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link
my biggest problems w/ hhnf is a. it was narrow b. it was no fun c. the beats sucked some balls. no "virginia" no "young boy" no "when the last time" no "cot damn" and the list goes on and on.
my fave part of the whole hype was def the "skeletal, minimal beats match their stark, unforgiving lyrics". i mean lofuckingl
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 05:56 (sixteen years ago) link
What do you mean by "narrow"?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i LIKE hell hath, but jeez no to be all sick mouthy on the tip but the mastering was hellishly harsh, and the beats were already harsh to begin with, i think that more than anything made it not have legs for me.
like i said above i like the mixtapes just to hear them go hard over other people's beats....like "Cry Now" off the new tape is probably better than most of hell hath..
...but yeah honestly i always imagined if lord willin' had disappeared and they never got the p-fork hype, ethan would be posting shit from "what happened to that boy" with "^^^^^^^the realest" after it
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
fyi i still jam lord willin herb-a-thon or no
― and what, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
rev:
focus wise. it's probably my fault for being tired of coke-talk after listening to hhnf, but on lord willin at least a lot of that stuff was framed in a larger narrative ("young boy" about selling coke as a come up, "virginia" in relation to the state [even though they don't really talk about themselves all that much in the song]). and i respect their "we got fucked over and our lives sucked and we had to sell coke so we cut out all the fun songs" (i.e. a "when the last time" which is just a great song about going to the club, but widens the focus of the album) thing but it didn't work for me.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
like ill take "comedy central" and "i'm not you" over like every song but 2 on hhnf
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
^^and those are back-half album cuts mind you
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah I like their old stuff fine. i just think the nu-Neptunes stuff on the last album was garbage, and don't really care to hear their mixtape shit (but then, i don't really care to hear some of my favorite MCs' mixtape shit), and they seem to have gotten really smug as their lyrics have become more repetitive and monomaniacal. maybe the beats they get from Danja and Dame Grease on the next one will be good, though.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Thus far (and just like on HHNF after the new wore off) I'm actually liking Roscoe P Goldchain (?) the most. But then I really dig alliteration, and obv he does too.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link
dude's "bodies like kill bill" was eventually my favorite verse of the whole record
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
lol skateboard p's "house is paisley"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
i would def. support switching out sandman for roscoe on the re-up starting lineup
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
"chains on my neck like i'm fresh off the amistad"
0_o!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
roscoe verses are genuinely scary
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
the more i think abt it roscoe is kinda one of the coolest most unique rappers out there, his flow is so distinctive
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
this line is o_O from scenario 2008:
like pearl jam i kill my foes like jeremy and here i am with open arms like journey
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I think a lot of people misunderstood the "Jeremy" video and thought he was gunning down the other kids, not just himself. Anyway line woulda been better if it was "I bit the recess lady's breast like Jeremy."
I hope ethan responds to HOOS's quote with an annotated list of jewelry chain/slave chain punchlines from old records.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link
me too, actually
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link
i always hunt them shits down
i love how he pronounces jeremy "jerrmy"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link
the most o_O line for me in the whole thing is "re-up gang in the building tonight/ oh what a feeling selling bricks of white"
kinda way too yucky for my taste.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
and it was the specificity of the amistad ref that got me, i'm aware that chain/chain whip/whip double entendres are not exactly the freshest shit out.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
that's not yucky, it's just a boring subtraction of whatever subtlety or cleverness "Roc Boys" had in the first place.
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link
this line is o_O from scenario 2008:like pearl jam i kill my foes like jeremy and here i am with open arms like journey-- M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 2:34 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 2:34 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I was waiting for you to post that. Love, the internet.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link
it's just a boring subtraction of whatever subtlety or cleverness "Roc Boys" had in the first place.
-- Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, February 5, 2008 1:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
nah i'm aware of that but it's way too celebratory for my taste (maybe if you heard it it would be more clear).
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link
well jeez he drops a pearl jam reference! i'm only human whiney!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link
lol @ 2 good-song-having-ass The Carter II being the pinnacle of rap
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
wrong thread?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
wrong thread
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
also btw i wasn't saying that pearl jam line was GOOD, it's funny reminds me of like paul barman or something
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link
haha yeah I know you weren't praising it, but I assumed you were going o_O for the same nitpicky reason I was (Jeremy didn't kill his foes!)
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
i do kinda like how on a couple tracks pusha's "eugh" is like double/triple-tracked. jeezy-esque.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
man maybe in the face of how one-note the clipse is, i'm kinda loving the shit outta ras kass kickin' some old school "deep" psuedophilosphical lyrical sci-fi hoo-hah! no one hardly does conceptual joints anymore except nas sometimes or i guess the lupe album (which i haven't heard) has a cheezburger song...but anyway this is kinda dope:
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.4175/title.ras-kass-butterfly-effect
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
sorta sidenote: anyone download that fixxers bootleg back then? been listening to it lately, and (besides it being totally excellent) the thought occurred that this must be the music pharrell's been thinking he's hearing in his head going into the booth trying to sass over minimal skeletal stuff these past few years. only without a millionth of quik's charisma and wit.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
case in point! really skateboard p could do this word for word and still just sound punchable, so i dunno what it is tbh.
basically it's just fixxers and 'dey know' for me in 08 2date - and uh, BRRRMbrrmbrrrmBRRRRMMMbrrm HELLOOOOOO BROOKLYYYYYYYN, which has i reckon has developed this sorta cool afterlife outside of the jigga album it never made much sense on in the first place. is it a single or something? i hear it a lot, around in england. it's pretty awesome.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link