seastones cd comes with an alternate take of the piece that is great too.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
seastones is rad
― mizzell, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
love those 74 shows where phil and ned performed Seastones between the first and second sets
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I returned to Blues for Allah recently for the first time in a long while and I'd rank it with their best five or so studio albums; it's also when they were most like a jazz fusion band. There's something slightly cold and electronic about the production on it that works well with the tricky playing.
― Mark, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i only really like the garcia hunter songs on blues for allah but they are some of my favorites. i was thinking it would be a good example of an edge or darkness that people said was missing from the dead.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
x-postSeastones is very good indeed; I should check Yamantaka, I like Henry Wolff.
― Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
this is cheating but this is my kinda noodling. hey, maybe can weren't, but amon duul were huge dead fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dNxpsW0DMM
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
what if the dead had been jorma and jerry and the god-like jack casady
If I Could Only Remember My Name, plus the associated demos, rehearsals, and outtakes.
― B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread got me imagining what it would have sounded like if The Band and The Dead had swapped songbooks circa 1970.
Pigpen destroying (in a good way) "Up on Cripple Creek," Jerry on "When You Awake"...I think Weir could do a credible "Stage Fright".
"Mountains of the Moon" as a duo of Manuel and Hudson...maybe a little mandolin played by Levon. Keep Robertson and Danko away from that one. All of Workingman's Dead would be pretty neat played by the Band, but I have a hard time imagining their approach to "Dark Star."
― the wages of sin is about tree fiddy (WmC), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
darkness that people said was missing from the dead.
Ahhhhhhh-ha-hah-ha-hah-ha-ha-ha-ha. This band is at least 80% darkness.
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't really get that complaint either, unless those people just have 14 versions of dancing in the street or something.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i. can someone explain 'seastones' to meii. can anyone recommend a live thing post gaining godchaux where you can really HEAR godchaux? he seems to make so little difference to what they're doing in the jams, whereas on the records he's a massive component of the soundiii. i have been listening to nothing but the grateful dead for the last week
― thomp, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
"goin home, goin home, by the riverside i will rest my bones, listen to river sing sweet songs to rock my soul"
The Dead's fatalism was so large and all-enveloping that oftentimes people couldn't see it...
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
black peter hit me so hard when i was 16. but i was a huge joy division fan, so it makes sense.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i think im over hating for the dead. i remember watching a classic albums episode for workingmans dead and it was like bad country rock but ive heard a few things that i like such as dark star and china cat sunflower. theyre not the acid rock freakout i was expecting but i like those songs enough to investigate. i like the allman brothers "eat a peach" so these guys were a big influence on that sound, right? now wheres my pachouli oil....
― Michael B, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
There is nothing the Dead ever did that matches four bars of Levon Helm's drumming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZaU3VtMfoM
― herbal bert (herb albert), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
one of my fave lyrics of all time:
I ran into Charlie PhoggBlacked my eye and he kicked my dogMy doggie turned to me and he saidLet's head back to Tennessee Jed
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Yah dude, the country rock greats were not all hating on each other in opposing internet music boards or nothing.
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Ugh Band vs Dead is such a reductive, boring way to talk about either band. It's so Beatles v Stones.Liking one doesnt magically negate the talent of the other. May Levon shove hotdrumsticks in yr ears
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_dkavLVcN0
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
fuckin' danko : )
you forget the great dickey betts/phil lesh flame war of 88. xp
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
hmmm now if dickey had died instead of duane and jerry said fuggit come on hunter let's head south and join those peach-eatin' good ol' boys... (i'm always dreaming, sorry.)
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
lol I see the rest of your post is riddled with I-don't-actually-have-an-argument-so-I-condescend garbage, never mind - when you want to actually talk about music with people who've doubtless heard & understood as much of it as you have, come back to this thread, til then I think everybody gets it - you don't dig the Grateful Dead and you think people who have don't have your penetrating insight into music - cool, gotcha - now fuck off
Dear me.
― I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
would rather talk about Band vs. CCR but this is a Dead thread so I adjust
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
ccr!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't have any time for the band. maybe when i'm 80.
i mean i looooooooooove the allmans and the new riders and poco and cowboy and quicksilver and a zillion other also-ran mutton chop motherfuckers, but the band...i better stop or stormy davis will come beat me up or something.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually, I'll let it lie. The Fall comparison above makes sense - I love the Fall, and can never wholly dislike anyone else who does, since getting MES strikes me as pretty good for humanity/ interestingness index bonus points. But I know and like people who don't, and while I regret it, I understand they're not bad, and their taste isn't consequently suspect in every other respect. So maybe I just don't 'get' it (if there is an 'it')
― I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
right there w/ ya scott...watched The Last Waltz and didn't really get all the hubbub...the only Band I like is when Helm & Danko guest-starred on 70s Neil Young albums
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
scott otm
― wk, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
you dirty hippies should give the band another chance
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry to say I'm with Scott, Drugs and wk on this one. Great musicians when backing someone else, but I'm bored by the Band stuff.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe i just listen to too much actual country music too? i dunno. i used to have a problem with a lot of acting-80-when-you're-30 music that i probably like now. like the dead. i haven't actually listened to every band album though. i kinda liked cahoots at one point i think? and someone mentioned little feat, man, i can listen to them all day long. so maybe its just a vocal thing. i don't really have a specific problem with the band. i just never listen to them! i can't listen to everything. though i try.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
The Band, The Dead, they both really do it for me...I kind of like the hokey, folksy kind of thing the Band has but can understand favoring one over the other. Personally, I would love to hear Garcia, Danko & Manuel sing together...and I love the idea of the 2 bands swapping material
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.lyricshunt.com/img/posters/35/PF_2370181.jpg
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Let's do it. Let's go.
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd see that show for $10, totally.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll warm up the time machine
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
lol at (what I think is) a 1966 photo of the Dead for a 1973 show
― the wages of sin is about tree fiddy (WmC), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
$10 for concert, parking AND camping :D
we should bring weed from here tho, weed back then pretty much sucked huh
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
seward to thread in re: modern weed being too much to really enjoy life w/
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
the dude who owns the bbq joint in my town actually went to this festival. he has a story about showing up with a vanload of friends and then literally never seeing his friends again the whole weekend. 600,000 people!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
he was also like, "yeah there was music ... couldn't really hear any of it, though."
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgYp9RM2xp8
get to Watkins Glen a day early for soundcheck to catch one of the all-time killer live Dead jams
― herbal bert (herb albert), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
600,000?
um...I need to rethink this
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
we should bring weed from here tho,
maybe you guys should bring mobile phones from here too, then?
― I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
mobile phones get totally confusing while high ime
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ok so it seems to be consensus, i should download Europe 72 first if i've never really heard non-studio dead?
i have anthem of the sun, that is pretty ok
― O da Huge Manatee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Then we'll have to bring the towers too. This is getting complicated.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link