i mean the curve could be steeper or flatter i guess but it's kind of like saying "people who grow to be 5'9" are more likely to end up over 6 feet tall"
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
we were all 3 feet tall once
― don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, April 29, 2011 7:20 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
i mean, no, not at all. it's more like saying "people that grow to be 3 feet tall almost always end up 10 feet tall."
fwiw on the clickthrough there's way more
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i guess that's a more accurate way of putting it. just seems like a pretty predictable and logical stat that they're dropping like a revelation or truth bomb imo.
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i mean i phrased it the way i did because the idea that projects reaching 30% get funded fully almost every time is really surprising to me, i would have expected there are a lot of projects that stalled out at higher numbers, or that if there was a threshold like this it would have been much higher--"get to 30% & statistically you're basically there" is way more surmountable as a goal than "promote this until you are all the way there, cause it won't happen otherwise"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
btw al i'm following this stuff/bumping this thread cause some ppl i run with are thinking about moving to kickstarter to fund some art projects and i actually wanted to tap yr experience on this, so def don't let me make it sound like i know what i'm talking about.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
haha no it's cool -- i guess i have a different way of looking at how KS tends to work for people but i don't know if it's necessarily because of my personal experience with it. but sure lemme know if you have any questions.
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
By itself, the graphic doesn't mean a lot. For example, what's the breakdown is dollar/valuesas goals.
How does it skew when comparing projects that ask for trivial funding as opposed to those requesting more serious money? What's the impact of publicity or recommendation by big name linkage?
Also, from the pov of the non-user, there's no way to gauge how hard 30 percent is to reach. Is it just a meaningless pass through point on the way to full funding? As presented here, it looks fairly ambiguous without clarification.
― Gorge, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
seems like people are more reluctant to be the first ones to jump in, or to fund something that looks like a futile effort, but happy to keep the momentum going and give it that last push.
― adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
that i think is true, but perhaps less true than that imo your project either has what it takes to go the long haul, or is just nowhere near it, with little in between.
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok my friends all use bandcamp and soundcloud, but I've been doing the mediafire for years now, but I'd like to branch out. What are the differences between the two? Which is better? I really like the soundcloud presentation, and the streaming embedded files, but I wouldn't mind being able to charge for things. Is that a bandcamp thing only? Also, does anyone ever make money off it? Most of my stuff is covers, too, so I don't know if those sites will allow them. Opinions? Suggestions?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
i think soundcloud is way better for sharing, but is not geared towards selling at all - you can link to where your stuff is for sale but can't sell directly on soundcloud.
you can share things fine on bandcamp and it is probably a lot more flexible though. i think there is no good reason not to use both.
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
Also, does anyone ever make money off it?
i'd say we're not in the black yet but it has definitely been worth having
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
Are there any reasons to choose soundcloud? Other than prettier embed graphics?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
well, one good thing is there's an android app for it, and bandcamp won't stream on android
also soundcloud 'feels' better for non-releases, demos etc as bandcamp is more geared towards "albums", but that's more just my opinion
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
also the social networking aspect of SC that BC pretty much doesn't have, if that floats one's boat
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
Can you sell albums/songs on Soundcloud?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
not directly, but you can link to stores/bandcamp etc
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Friday, 12 August 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think i post new stuff more frequently on bandcamp, just like the layout better. soundcloud i do mixes (tho also mixcloud now), covers, "singles"
― Dominique, Friday, 12 August 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
hey, thought i'd just do a little bit of shameless self-promotion...i've started a kickstarter to get a digital compilation i just put out for free pressed on vinyl. exclusive tracks from amen dunes, wooden wand, sore eros, xray eyeballs, the renderers, black eagle child and bunches more. there's a link from the kickstarter page to download it. alright, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1671364068/press-blackburns-various-deficiencies-vol-2-on-vin
― jonathan - stl, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
a more important chart
http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4db9a1cd49e2ae83320e0000/kickstarter-graph.jpg
― sanskrit, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
totaling funding, projects in aggregate.
― sanskrit, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
wow. nearly doubling since the beginning of the year.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
as someone on my facebook said: 33 grand to start a blog?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ricleichtung/ad-hoc
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
kickstarter abuse?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
although they do say that they are gonna do a print version too. there is that.
Pretty good NYT story on Kickstarter the other day, they interviewed Yancey.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
yancey s.? what's he up to?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
hunter hunt-hendrix isn't the liturgy guy's real name is it? the lana del ray of metal. or maybe it is. kinda unbelievable, but you never know.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
Corunning Kickstarter! I had almost forgotten that myself -- it's mentioned upthread.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
Meantime, Doug Mosurock on this blog thing is a treat. As are his commenters:
https://www.facebook.com/mosurock/posts/2962663298311
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
ugh, that mosurock thing makes me WANT to donate to this adhoc thing
― fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
It can't be any more odious than requiring FB membership in order to read the damned thing. Data mine THIS, Zuckerberg.
― doug watson, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
i don't understand some of the stuff on kickstarter that has like $10,000+ in funding. i thought people were poor now.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
the whole IDEA of kickstarter is that you can raise that kind of money from a large number of people who might only be able to individually contribute in the single or double digits, dude
― some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah haven't you seen Breaking Bad?
― scott seward, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
how much money do you think i could make with a kickstarter to never post on ilx ever again?
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
not as much as some people!
― some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
:(
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
although an enterprising mod could easily intervene and say "just give me the money, i'll permaban them for half the price"
― some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
idgi why would that make you frown
― some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
i want a lot of money, have no skills or talent
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
be more annoying then.
― scott seward, Friday, 10 February 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
come on, you can do it.
I want all my favorite bands to go on Bandcamp. I like that Relapse has all their bands on Bandcamp. However, their $10 price point is too high. I can hold out and often get the CD for that much or less used or at a show. I think a good model would be $5 to $7 for established bands, and choose yr price for new bands seeking an audience. I think I've convinced a couple bands to get on the Bandcamp wagon. 2 down, thousands to go.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
Shit, I only just realized this was Yancey after reading that NYT article yesterday!
That's awesome, now I like Kickstarter even more (I like it quite a bit anyway).
― De Laurentiiis (admrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I only put two and two together when I read it as well -- which given his role's mentioned earlier on the thread shows how much I pay attention sometimes!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 April 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
seriously dude. you need to pay more attention to ILX.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
meanwhile, those dudes got 37 grand in pledges for their blog:
― scott seward, Monday, 2 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
i guess if you see it as a publication, and you want to actually pay people to write, which i think we all agree is a fine thing, what's wrong with that??
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
Having to produce 66 albums a year is hard work, though.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 24 May 2024 07:03 (six days ago) link
Fuck, 6, not 66.