list of involuntary reactions to the new le tigre 'single'

Man, you're bold.

i'm not a big kathleen hanna fan though. i was always more of a huggy bear fan. she was cute in that sonic youth video though. but even that: i mean she's no lung leg. but then sonic youth weren't the same sonic youth by then, so it makes sense that they would choose a 2nd gen toothless version of fierce female to hang their senior bus passes on. riot girl was too cutesy for me. i like freaks and geeks too much. most of those dilletantes weren't passionate enough to shine dawn crosby's boots. never heard of dawn crosby? yeah, i didn't think so. she wasn't pouty enough. (that cassavettes song was silly though! i'll bet sofia coppola liked that one.)

this means that le tigre's song should be judged especially for its political content?

(PS2: The video shows a banner that says 'Wars shouldn't be started by draft dodgers.' I'd just like to say that the last three words are redundant and cloud the message, and should have been left out, or pixellated, to erase the silly idea that someone who had served in the military would have the right to start a war.)

Politics and aesthetics can be tangled up, but a bad song is just this and nothing more. Some Eisenstein movies could have a disturbing Stalinist subtext, still they remain a good film (bad comparison, I know, but first thing I could made up).

John Lennon, author of 'Give Peace A Chance', a song I'm glad exists.

Two, one two three four
Ev'rybody's talking about
Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

C'mon
Ev'rybody's talking about Ministers,
Sinisters, Banisters and canisters
Bishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,
And bye bye, bye byes.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Let me tell you now
Ev'rybody's talking about
Revolution, evolution, masturbation,
flagellation, regulation, integrations,
meditations, United Nations,
Congratulations.

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

Ev'rybody's talking about
John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary,
Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper,
Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer,
Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna,
Hare, Hare Krishna

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is give peace a chance

'Have you confessed your sins to Jesus?
My dear boy, get this:
The sin of your body was invented by a gang of holy quacks.
If you like their invention, that's your business.
I don't.
Practice of the common virtues of honesty, kindness, understanding, consideration for mankind
Has nothing to do with religion and never has
Had anything to do with it.
And religion as it is practiced is one of the curses of the race.'

A final lesson of our comparison is this: the
Zen Buddhists do not think differently than the
Western philosophers. When it comes to defining
truth and articulating the metaphysical assumptions
behind the practieal application of
this theory, the difference between the traditions
is slight. The Zen and Aristotelian/Thomistic
traditions diverge only when they consider what the
purpose of thinking is and what the basic
relationship between man and world is.
Aristotle/Thomas and Hui-neng/Lin-chi/Dogen are not
sets of writers who think differently; they are
groups of philosophers who disagree about what we
should think about.
(B.P.Kasulis, Philosophy East and West)

heaven,
hell
countries,
things to kill or die for
religion
war
possesions
greed
hunger
property

Things affirmed by 'Imagine':

sky
living for today
peace
dreams
brotherhood
sharing
unity

in my opinion, lennon's nihilism is based on the refuse/repulsion of what is (or has been considered) the simple truth of human condition: war AND peace, heaven AND sky, property AND sharing etc. A world without the idea of god would be maybe better, surely wouldn't be human. utopia is nihilistic almost by definition.
by the way, i've always been surprised by the ecumenical (no pun here) success of this song, even at Republican conventions!, despite its content...

sorry my english isn't good enough so i cannot properly explain me...

Is it on SLSK at all?

The peoblem, maybe, is that people were taking them seriosuly before this came out.

But this song really isn't awful or anything, just not as good.
It's looking like the member they lost after the first LP was key, isn't it?

B-but it's the same rhythm used on 'We Didn't Start The Fire' by Billy Joel!