Jeff Buckley Classic or Dud?

his version of "Hallelujah" is one of my least favorite pieces of music ever

ok now I fully think ILX = opposite day board

nah, I know full well I'm in the minority due to how many times his keening intrudes on my time in any given café (c'mon hipsters, find some other signifier for "cool").

you may be in the minority in public but not on this board!

John and corey, I have your back forever on this.

HOOOOOOOOOOS to thread plz

Dud

classic

Weird Al's not an unattractive dude 'cept for the wacky hair.

http://amysrobot.com/files/weirdal.JPG

relistened to all his stuff for the first time in a while. grace now sounds pretty bad, sketches sounded fantastic.

If you squint he has a bit part as a stoner on Treme.

some dude wrote this on thread "The Wire" on HBO on board I Love Everything on Jan 15, 2011

if they ever do a Jeff Buckley biopic they should really cast Ransone, both because he looks close enough and because afaict JB was about as obnoxious as Ziggy irl

apparently they ARE doing a biopic now and i plan on griping when James Franco or whoever gets the part

we've never done a Grace poll, have we? that would be fun

Or that Twilight guy will get it the part, or Keira Knightly maybe.

lol

Saddest thing is that I felt he was actually, massively improving. 'Sketches' is way, way better than Grace. I loved the direction he was taking there.

"Josh Groban, as you've never seen him before...."

yeah i was listening to Sketches recently and there is some great stuff on there

Have fond memories of seeing him in 95 at a RRR FM rooftop gig in the rain...no-one thought he would play but they threw a tarp over the stage and he played and joked it was one of the best nights of my life. (Added bonus: we met Mick Grondahl afterwards going down the stairs, very sweet & friendly)

I can't defend him to anyone who hates him without morphing into stupid-fangirl mode, but I've always held his music pretty close...funny, but I can't fight to the death over his music the way I will happily do with other music I love. I think I just found the music v intense, and he was around for such a short time that it really left a mark. I don't ever put him up for discussion because I guess I can't handle talking about him still. Sounds dumb, I know.

his music's by no means infallible or beyond criticism but the reasons people dismiss or hate on him are generally total superficial bullshit

Rockist creedo #813 -- If a bunch of people are jamming out to Nirvana before i've even heard of them, they must suck to infinity. If even the most mediocre of bands is on my radar before anybody else, then I shall be their champion.

I had a bunch of Tim years before Jeff was around. And while I still believe that Tim has 100x the chops, I cannot deny my affinity for his son. For the last decade I've mostly appreciated the more striped-down acoustic pieces (the extended Sin-e is delightful, saving of course for the caustic "Kick Out The Jams"). I was glad he got his props, however, I really dislike all the fanboy neuroticisms extolled A.D. It was like when Cobain blew his brains out, I mean, no big surprise there and no great loss - as something new is always coming down the highway (or, better yet, something old that you've never heard before). Holding anything up as being so untouchably precious is the enemy of truly new ideas in music.

i am here now fyi

also drunk, which is appropriate

lol...i have a mid-evening hangover myself :/

what some dude said

And while I still believe that Tim has 100x the chops, I cannot deny my affinity for his son.

^ yup

just put on "forget her," straight fire imo

It was like when Cobain blew his brains out, I mean, no big surprise there and no great loss - as something new is always coming down the highway (or, better yet, something old that you've never heard before). Holding anything up as being so untouchably precious is the enemy of truly new ideas in music.

i don't think 'no big surprise' applies to buckley, i mean the guy drowned in a freak accident after spontaneously deciding to go for a swim.

my attitude towards him is pretty much, hey, if his popularity gets more ppl to listen to his dad, cool.

his music's by no means infallible or beyond criticism but the reasons people dismiss or hate on him are generally total superficial bullshit

― lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 03:32 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm.

before his death (when he'd sold virtually zero records btw) people criticised him for being self-indulgent and ott. now he's dead and he's sold lots of records to uncool people, people criticise him for being anodyne and dull. figure that one out.

i think he's rad tbh, and punch myself in the balls every day for not going to see him play london in 93. i couldn't get anyone to go with me and i should have just gone on my own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHLgKxB14Lo

His earnestness and goofiness didn't mix at-all with the perceived cool of having an inherited 'prestige artist' status, flip-flopping between beautiful poetic wunderkind and goofy Rush-loving guitar nerd makes him such an easy target.

But all said and done I stil dig a lot of his music and especially like his effervescent atitude towards giving props to other artists, like the scatty way he arrives at the Nusrat cover on the expanded Sin-E CD for instance.

"Mojo Pin" is one of my favorite songs ever.

and how can anybody resist "Everybody Here Wants You"

flip-flopping between beautiful poetic wunderkind and goofy Rush-loving guitar nerd

I think you hit on what I like best about him! Like I think half my favorite songs of his are covers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubYDPqi6ht4

Por ejemplo I would have been totes happy if he just did 'sad man in him room' style cover album of 'Lamb...' *skronk*

I've still never listened to "Grace," actually.

oh you totes should, it's a favorite of mine.

O_________________________________________________________________O @ i against i

ps yes listen to grace

XP - he would have done a great Cuckoo Cocoon

yes!!!!! that is exactly what I was thinking.

oh i love his "back in nyc," basement guitar tone and all

he really accessed the evil in it

this is also where i say second disc of sketches or gtfo

xxpost I could hear him doing a very brooding and emotive "The Musical Box"

I wonder if liked XTC?

Anyhoo, my favourite of his cover versions.
http://youtu.be/__uu9kNBDS0

Sometimes I put on the Sin-e set, and it really strikes me how almost confrontational it is. Like, that voice, those songs, those covers, in a tiny, tiny room? I can imagine stumbling on something that intimate might have been pretty uncomfortable.

I think he's a great singer and guitarist, of course, and probably a great songwriter, too. It's almost shame he's judged almost entirely by "Grace," since by all accounts that album was slapped together pretty quickly. Considering it's bookended by live coffee shop meandering and an unfinished album, I can hardly think of another major, so influential artists represented by such an incomplete portrait.

Re: the covers, I appreciate that he seems equally and honestly into the Smiths, Zeppelin, Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan, Genesis or Bad Brains or whatever. I suppose his lack of irony, and that goofy persona, may be what puts some folks off, especially someone expecting an artist more analogous to, say, Nick Drake.

well and i've seen interviews where he's really self serious and """profound""" so the bad brains cover in particular with him laughing and shit was kind of a shock

in my mind he's a dork, first and foremost.

I think of him like I think of Eddie Vedder: in his natural, relaxed state he is a goob. But in yr early 20's they try to behave as serious artists and be earnest & push the goofiness down until no-one knows thats who you are. I cant stand much of the early Vedder bc of that struggle that is obvious now that he has relaxed into his fame...I think Jeff had the same discomfort with all the attention...but if he'd hung around we'd have seen more of his goofishness and it would have tempered that weird, uncomfortably fierce earnestness

yeesh I hope someone can make sense of that, edit much jeez?

Hoos, have you heard the extended Sin-E recording? There's quite a bit of silly mucking around on there.

i have not

It's good!