Jeff Buckley Classic or Dud?

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I wonder if liked XTC?

Anyhoo, my favourite of his cover versions.
http://youtu.be/__uu9kNBDS0

Per Yngve's having his brain out (MaresNest), Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes I put on the Sin-e set, and it really strikes me how almost confrontational it is. Like, that voice, those songs, those covers, in a tiny, tiny room? I can imagine stumbling on something that intimate might have been pretty uncomfortable.

I think he's a great singer and guitarist, of course, and probably a great songwriter, too. It's almost shame he's judged almost entirely by "Grace," since by all accounts that album was slapped together pretty quickly. Considering it's bookended by live coffee shop meandering and an unfinished album, I can hardly think of another major, so influential artists represented by such an incomplete portrait.

Re: the covers, I appreciate that he seems equally and honestly into the Smiths, Zeppelin, Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan, Genesis or Bad Brains or whatever. I suppose his lack of irony, and that goofy persona, may be what puts some folks off, especially someone expecting an artist more analogous to, say, Nick Drake.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 May 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

well and i've seen interviews where he's really self serious and """profound""" so the bad brains cover in particular with him laughing and shit was kind of a shock

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

in my mind he's a dork, first and foremost.

I think of him like I think of Eddie Vedder: in his natural, relaxed state he is a goob. But in yr early 20's they try to behave as serious artists and be earnest & push the goofiness down until no-one knows thats who you are. I cant stand much of the early Vedder bc of that struggle that is obvious now that he has relaxed into his fame...I think Jeff had the same discomfort with all the attention...but if he'd hung around we'd have seen more of his goofishness and it would have tempered that weird, uncomfortably fierce earnestness

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeesh I hope someone can make sense of that, edit much jeez?

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Hoos, have you heard the extended Sin-E recording? There's quite a bit of silly mucking around on there.

Per Yngve's having his brain out (MaresNest), Sunday, 8 May 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i have not

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

It's good!

crabbbittts (Abbbottt), Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

A lot of guys hated Jeff Buckley because their girlfriends wanted to fuck him.

thirdalternative, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ladies and gentlemen,

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

There's only one song on Grace that I actively dislike. (And it's not "Hallelujah." My exhaustion with that song all happened after Buckley's death -- Shrek and Watchmen and everyone else who pounded it into paste.)

Stomp! in the name of love (WmC), Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

"So Real" is the only one I'm ambivalent to

BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Jewel Box on Sketches has a really beautiful melody and over-written lyrics that still work. Morning Theft is great too, the way the melody is constantly unfolding throughout the song.

thirdalternative, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Morning Theft, Vancouver, Everybody Here Wants You are among his very best I think

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

nightmares by the sea

BIG YNGWIE aka the malmsteendriver (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Yesss, forgot about that one

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 8 May 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

morning theft is incredible.

jed_, Sunday, 8 May 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I really love Yard Of Blonde Girls

VegemiteGrrl, Sunday, 8 May 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Something about Sweetheart struck me as tentative, especially after the awkward over-the-topness of Grace. Then I heard the second (mostly demos) disc and thought, yes, this is the Buckley I know and love. I would have been overjoyed if his actual non-posthumous second album had been those 4-track recordings.

I don't think he gets enough credit as a really skilled, inventive guitarist. Mad chords, open tunings (better still, a 12 string electric in open G - harmonic heaven), making complicated things sound easy and easy things sound complicated. Using an electric for solo accompaniment (and really making use of the extra stuff that can be done with it) when most singers would just plink out a few open chords on an acoustic.

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Monday, 9 May 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that's all v.otm — never heard the stuff he did pre-solo career, but wasn't he playing lead guitar in some kinda prog band?

"Hungry clouds swag on the deep." — William Blake (bernard snowy), Monday, 9 May 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think 'no big surprise' applies to buckley, i mean the guy drowned in a freak accident after spontaneously deciding to go for a swim.

my attitude towards him is pretty much, hey, if his popularity gets more ppl to listen to his dad, cool.

Agreed. Upon hearing the news, my first thoughts were about the Buckley family (not that I know the first thing about them) and how tragic it might be for them. My second thought, oddly enough, was how the rumors of Simon LeBon's drowning persisted for weeks (in the pre-internet days of the mid-80s) when the actual event was measured in minutes.

Curious, how many Jeff fans do you think actually found Tim? On the ILM boards I doubt more than 20% matriculated to the elder, and in the general population it's probably less than 5%. But, yeah, the more the better.

suspecterrain, Monday, 9 May 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I definitely sought Tim out after I got into Jeff.

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 9 May 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i migrated to tim from jeff. starsailor and lorca and happy/sad are completely crucial records for me now but i might only barely know them without the tremendous jeff fandom i experienced from ages 12 to okay now.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Monday, 9 May 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Me too. Heard Starsailor first and was blown away.

So, let's ask the question: Tim Buckley and Jeff Buckley -- in what order did you hear them?

suspecterrain, Monday, 9 May 2011 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i got happy/sad on a whim and aint quite been the same since

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 May 2011 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoops, made a mistake there: I heard Jeff first, dug him, then moved onto Tim, whereupon I was blown away by Starsailor.

How many of of you sought out "Starsailor" after being blown away by the breakout band Starsailor?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 May 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

They pissed me off so much, not only did they nick the name but the bleeding font as well, twats.

Per Yngve's having his brain out (MaresNest), Monday, 9 May 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ those are the exact reasons I made a point of never hearing the band Starsailor.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 May 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Him from Gossip Girl will play Jeff Buckley in a film

Gukbe, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Hand me my shotgun

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

did anybody else notice the url

http://www.deadline.com/2011/06/penn-badgley-to-play-singer-tim-buckley-in-biopic/

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

he doesn't really look the part but whatever, dude was lobster todd, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt

admin logbs (some dude), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Apparently not! Big boots to fill, Spider-Man.

LOS ANGELES, CA(AUGUST 15TH, 2011) – Actor/singer-songwriter Reeve Carney (Broadway’s Spiderman: Turn off the Dark) has been cast as Jeff Buckley in the forthcoming “Untitled Jeff Buckley" film, it was announced today by the filmmakers. To be directed by Jake Scott (Welcome to the Rileys), and written by Ryan Jaffe (story by, The Rocker), the filmmakers hold a robust rights package that includes the exclusive rights to Jeff's music and personal archives, and is fully supported by Buckley’s mother, Mary Guibert, who serves as executive producer. Michelle Sy (Finding Neverland) and Orian Williams (Control) are producing, with Alison Raykovich (Jeff Buckley Music) serving as associate producer. Producers are currently out to additional cast for the project.

The film will chronicle the life of Buckley, one of the most critically acclaimed musical artists of his time, who died tragically at age 30 in a drowning accident in Memphis, Tennessee’s Wolf River. Production will commence in New York and Memphis in November.

Carney currently stars on Broadway as Peter Parker in the high profile production of Spiderman: Turn off the Dark. Reeve also co-starred in Julie Taymor’s THE TEMPEST for Miramax. His current single, "Rise Above 1 featuring Bono and The Edge" (Music From SPIDER-MAN Turn Off The Dark), was performed by the trio on the season finale of American Idol this year. In addition, Reeve and his band Carney opened for U2 on the last stop of the U2 360° tour. Their debut album Mr. Green Vol. 1 is available on DAS Label/Interscope.

"We are over the moon that Reeve has agreed to take on this challenging role. I've seen him perform several times...he's been getting ready for this all his life. It certainly doesn't hurt that he looks so much like Jeff," said Guibert regarding the choice.

Scott commented, “We are excited to have found in Reeve the perfect combination of musical prodigy, impish charm, innate intelligence & sensitivity to play Jeff.”

The as-yet untitled script is based on screenwriter Jaffe’s in-depth examination and research into Buckley’s life, which includes scores of interviews, unlimited access to the Jeff Buckley Estate archives, and Jeff’s personal journals, drawings, and letters. Producers also optioned the book “Dream Brother: The Lives and Music of Jeff and Tim Buckley” by David Browne, for research purposes.

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

Producers also optioned the book “Dream Brother: The Lives and Music of Jeff and Tim Buckley” by David Browne, for research purposes.

that's gotta be some nice scratch. anyone know how i can get hollywood to option my black flag book?

sbgorf (stevie), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Rollins becomes gov of Calif.

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

i saw this guy do a TV interview once and didn't remember what he looked like but wow the resemblance is pretty strong

http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/106/230x306/106579_reeve-carney-in-february-2009.jpg

forkshighwaytopoopon (some dude), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

the tapes of this have been in this thread iirc but here it is in flash version

god i love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqK9BadX8-Y&feature=related

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link

just so many little touches, the tape wobble making the voice shudder and the guitar doing the ghostly feedback on the line about "feel the water touch my skin" gives me goosebumps

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:39 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

two biopics?

omar little, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.soulracer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/4-Without-Limits.jpg

omar little, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hsIxFm6VK0

I like him as sung by Genevieve Schatz.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

Music starts 1:45ish.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

No Dan Rossen in starring role of biopic, no credibility.

Yellow Tonka//Sony Titanium - YT//ST (Craig D.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

Nah, James Ransone!

Pat Ast vs Jean Arp (MaresNest), Thursday, 20 September 2012 08:04 (eleven years ago) link

Dan Rossen? Neither looks nor sounds like Buckley?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link


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