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i really like ash castles, but it don't sound a thang like charalambides to me.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 13 March 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

I like everything by Charalambides I have heard, so classic throughout...

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 14 March 2004 02:38 (twenty years ago) link

AMG loves the new one

Not out until May. Has it leaked or have you heard it?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 19 March 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...

Seriously, what's the verdict on Joy Shapes? I'm awaiting a job and subsequent paycheck to order a crapload of stuff from Eclipse, including this, since the local shops don't seem to have copies.

All of the reviews I've read allude to screaming vocals from Christina, which could be either really good or really bad. Does it sound cheesy or contrived, as sometimes these things do?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 31 May 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

i'll listen to it and report back, if no one else does.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 31 May 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

Ian - buy it, it's genius. I'll post my YF review later maybe. Anyway, it easily tops everything else they've done

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 31 May 2004 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

I loved "Unknown Spin", and I am undecided about "Joy Shapes" after a couple listens. There is a lot of creepy, intimate tension with the vocals, but the "songs" themselves are a bit indistinguishable. I think I just need to be more patient.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:59 (twenty years ago) link

so basically it sounds like all of their other recent albums, michael?

(still haven't listened to it.)

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

the vocals are waaaay more upfront on Joy Shapes. Mr. Kranky called them 'the elephant in the room.' more wail, less caress; the first song is almost too much for me. the microtonal intimacy of the three guitars is in full effect though.

― andybeta, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

YEs, the vocals are more up-front, but I wouldn't say she's 'screaming,' as it was characterized upthread. I'm down with Roger. Its very, very good stuff.

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 3 June 2004 04:05 (twenty years ago) link

I love it too, although it's burned onto the same CD as "Unknown Spin" so I have trouble remembering which is which. Either way, all of it is great.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 3 June 2004 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

im on the fence about the first track (the banshee screaming is just unsettling and unpleasant to me so far) the rest is pretty great and hypnotic.

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 3 June 2004 05:15 (twenty years ago) link

i will have to look for this tomorrow when i go into the city where they have real record stores.

otherwise, eclipse it is. rahr

― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 3 June 2004 05:32 (twenty years ago) link

"I love it too, although it's burned onto the same CD as "Unknown Spin" so I have trouble remembering which is which. Either way, all of it is great."
How in the hell can it be on the same CD? US is at least an hour, and JS is a lobe-melting 75 minutes+.

― andybeta, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

mp3s are wonderful things.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

well duh that, but my impression was that they weren't labeled in any way.

― andybeta, Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:20 (twenty years ago) link

what do scorces sound like?

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

imagine a vortex of both geechie wiley and patty waters...

― andybeta, Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

Scorces are less chimey more droney. I really like side B of their Eclipse LP, and they were good live.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

Historic 6th Ward is incredible. The homemade feel of the packaging suggests that it could be pretty rare -- is this true? I found two copies at the same store on the same day and bought them both.

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link

And the packaging is different on each one, I should add...

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Historic Sixth Ward is pretty rare.. e-mail me if yr interested in getting rid of your other copy, actually; all I have is a lousy CDR.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 4 June 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link

It's rare? How weird. I found my copy used too!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

eh, I could be wrong. it's out of print at any rate.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

aside from Market Square and other Siltbreeze and Kranky titles, they almost always have that 'touched by the artist' aspect to 'em. Union has it in spades. my copy has a William Blake poem pasted to it.

― andybeta, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Finally tracked down 'market square', a very gorgeous record. And yes, love that intro!

'Market Square is great, probably my favorite thing by them so far (although it's not the current line-up)'

so how has the line up changed?

Ian, I like the A side of that eclipse LP.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 5 June 2004 08:14 (nineteen years ago) link

julio - lineup change: jason bill out, heather leigh murray in.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 June 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i have a crush on heather leigh murray, btw.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 5 June 2004 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link

for the record, Christina is WAY cuter, but I'm not going to further encourage this kind of talk.

It reminds me of when, back in the day, my teenage bandmate, who was obsessed with Kurdt's PCpunker / kill-the-jocks / feminist / homo love rhetoric, explained that he loved The Breeders, qualifying his love for them by saying that he didn't CARE what anyone else said, Kim Deal was HOT in his book.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link

there was a period of a few albums where it was just tom and christina. good ones, too (houston, internal eternal, branches).

i heard that heather is now living with david keenan and they're musicking together.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 6 June 2004 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"joy shapes" is great. nice to see them moving in new directions.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 2 July 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

goddamn i have no more reservations about joy shapes anymore. perfect

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Now, walk don't run to the nearest store and buy a copy of Patty Waters Sings and you'll be doubly happy.

― dialecticbricks (dialecticbricks), Friday, 30 July 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link

if you don't have it already. like some kind of...non-hipster...chump...type..guy.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Just listened to "Joy Shapes" again - what a fucking punch in the face. This is music that refuses to allow you to think about anything else.

Dominique, I hope you've recovered from your bleeding.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

eclipse has both the self titled scorces and "L'or et L'argent"--which should i get?

― ryan (ryan), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

You should get the vivre ave la bete LP from Wholly Other, who I think still has some copies.

If you're totally comitted to getting one of those, I'd go for L'or et L'argent. I don't know what that means, as I do not speak the french. Do you?

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

"The Gold and the Silver"

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

vivre ave la bete it is. thanks

― ryan (ryan), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Hey, this Christina Carter split CD with Black Forest/Black Sea is pretty great! I'm still on Christina's tracks, but they're nice. Her second track is a solo take on the tune "Joy Shapes."

They close it out with a collaborative track, called "Orion 2." A sequel to the track "Orion" on BF/BS's Forcefields & Constellations.

Will report back when I've listened to the whole thing, but I encourage anyone who's on the fence about getting to get it... great packaging from TimeLag, too.

― Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 24 December 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Anyone know when the Scorces LP is coming out on idea?

― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 4 June 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that the first Scorces record? Cuz that ones a stunner. Heather has the most amazing voice, and watching her play, shes one of those people that looks so damn lost inside the music somewhere. Have her recent solo CD-R upstairs somewhere, I really need to dig that fucker out and give it a good listen.

― NickB (NickB), Saturday, 4 June 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

ian, i wouldn't really be holding my breath on idea stuff these days.

― Beta (abeta), Sunday, 5 June 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Anyone heard the new one? Apparently paired down to Tom + Christina

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

That's how it was at Terrastock. Brilliant show, and they even did two Market Square songs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The new one is their most structured in a while. Harkens back to the Siltbreeze days of elongated dirges and psychedelic melancholy. It's great. I can't wait for it to be released. I want vinyl, though.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

the new one is great. miles ahead of joy shapes (which i liked quite a bit). i like heather, but i'm sort of glad it's just back to tom and christina.

― m.c. (clikatowi), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

There was some discussion about it on the Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak thread. "Pared down" definitely covers it.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

They have a certain chemistry, it's true. xpost

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

listening now. yeah, they're great

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

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The Charalambides page only went online two days ago or so; Tom has been gradually populating his own Bandcamp page for a while now, so yes, there'll be more.

― Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

excellent news

― sleeve, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

four more albums up now, just in time for the Bandcamp sale!

― sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

oh hey cool, vinyl versions of some CDRs - I really liked these two in particular

https://drawingroomrecords.bandcamp.com/album/strangle-glowing-raw-2-album-set

― sleeve, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Tom Carter has launched a yearly subscription

https://tomcarterguitar.bandcamp.com/subscribe

― Dinsdale, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

oh my god

https://charalambides.bandcamp.com/album/charalambides-tom-and-christina-carter

― sleeve, Monday, 20 August 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

What you do for money, what you do for rent _ take a look inside, are you all that’s spent

― Ross, Monday, 20 August 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

xpost Marvelous album, already gave it an ear.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 August 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

tom carter subscription is a good time (though not the sheer onslaught of music that is the kevin drumm subscription)

― adam, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

Cor! And they're playing Cafe Oto in November...

― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

Oh man I hope I get to catch a date on this tour. Playing with Loren Connors in NYC, but unfortunately do not think I am gonna get to that one.

― grandavis, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

aw man, no West coast dates at all.

― sleeve, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

Tom Carter subscription essential for anyone that bookmarks this thread. The recent track with Susan Alcorn is great.

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 06:05 (five years ago) link

yes! i would listen to a quadruple lp of that vibe

― adam, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

Burner of a solo show from Tom last night at Union Pool in Brooklyn. There's an instagram video at https://www.instagram.com/p/BnEODCnFNSQ/

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 30 August 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link

Tom is operating on a very high level solo right now. I can't even really tell how he does it, just masterful tone wrangling.

― grandavis, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

yeah it's the tone, I agree but can't explain it any better than you.

I really need that double LP from a few years back

― sleeve, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

It is a wonderful record. I just jammed it a couple of weeks ago.

― grandavis, Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Just discovered them live at their gig last night, truly remarkable music. got their last record, Exile, Tom seems like a real nice dude.

They used to be three?

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

They've just been a duo for a while now, since A Vintage Burden or even earlier. Exile is amazing, enjoy.

probably my favorite band of the 2000s

― sleeve, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

Their new album is in the mail to me right now, can't wait. I just got the Bandcamp download today, so I get to listen tonight.

― sleeve, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

missed the nyc show last weekend but am ready for the new record. i sprung for the bonus cassette too

― adam, Friday, 12 October 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

looks like the cassette is not included in the download, fwiw. listening for the first time now, about to get on the living room couch and give it my full attention.

― sleeve, Saturday, 13 October 2018 00:02 (five years ago) link

This is wonderfully mellow so far.

― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 13 October 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

agreed except i just listened to side B at 78rpm accidentally and i thought dang this is wild

― adam, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

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