― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 10 May 2003 05:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 May 2003 05:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
V/A Wild Dub (Select Cuts) cd 15.98 Subtitled "Dread Meets Punk Rocker Downtown" this is a brilliant collection of dubbed out and reggaefied punk and new wave b-sides circa '77-'81, demonstrating the Jamaican dub influence on the youth culture of music and rebellion in England and elsewhere, back in the day. The underground dancefloor avantgardists of today can cop these styles, but this is the real deal, with tracks from well-known acts like The Pop Group, Killing Joke, The Slits, PIL, The Clash, Grace Jones and Stiff Little Fingers, plus some more obscure bands as well, like Red Beat, 4 Be 2, and Basement 5. Some cuts are actual echoey dubs, others are more about the Jamaican influence, and the dub concept of studio as instrument. All are pretty cool.
The Ruts' "Jah War" starts things off in deceptively ordinary fashion, pretty much straight up reggae (not a dub), though it does succesfully demonstrate this comp's thesis about the regarding the influence of reggae on punk (with The Ruts eventually becoming Ruts DC, subject of an anthology on Select Cuts we recommended a while back)... That's followed by Mikey Dread's dub version of The Clash's "Bank Robber" which of course sounds pretty much like The Clash, but dubbier. It's with track three, "Wild Dub" from Generation X, purportedly the first punk dub ever cut, that the punk-dub collision starts to get really interesting. And if Billy Idol's old band's dub attempt is cool, you can only imagine what more some of the more out-there groups came up with. For instance, dig the bizarre sounds of The Slits, whose disjointed dub of "Typical Girls" comes off like Italian 'rock concrete' deconstructionists Starfuckers by way of Jamaica, all cut-up and sparse and loopy. Definitely a highlight. Meanwhile, you've got The Pop Group setting an example for current acts like Out Hud/!!! to emulate, 4 Be 2's weird Irish hoedown skank, the throbbing "Turn To Red" by Killing Joke (from a super-rare 9" record), and Grace Jones' 1980 Chrissie Hynde penned dance classic "Private Life" with bass and drums from Sly & Robbie. And more... Former Sex Pistol Johnny Rotten is a ubiquitous presence, in addition to PIL's quintessential "Death Disco", there's a bunch of other John Lydon productions on here, including a great track from Vivien Goldman ("Private Armies") dubbed up by Lydon and Adrian Sherwood. Goldman, former singer with the Flying Lizards and reggae writer for the punk weekly Sounds, contributes the disc's liner notes, with an enthusiastic, informed, she-was-there-then-and-cares-deeply-about-it-now perspective. So, totally, recommended -- everyone who loved those great Disco Not Disco and/or In The Beginning There Was Rhythm compilations will want to check this out for sure!
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 12 May 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2532426003&category=1572
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 May 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.killingjoke.com
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 June 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 November 2003 06:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 9 November 2003 06:57 (twenty years ago) link
THE LEGENDARY FIRST POST! From such small acorns...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 November 2003 06:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 November 2003 07:10 (twenty years ago) link
― keith, Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Keith, Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
Killing Joke at Webster Hall 10/22/03
Killing Joke at Slims on 11/13/03
this is the thread where we talk about how much Living In The 80's by Killing Joke rules.
This is a thread where Alex in NYC can post EVERY SINGLE Killing Joke-related picture he has
Killing Joke 2003: the Album (c'mon, ya knew it was coming!)
Killing Joke - Outside the Gate.: Can ANYONE defend this?
TS: Adam And The Ants' "(You're So) Physical" vs. Killing Joke's "Requiem"
Grohl with the Joke -- for Aja
Killing Joke Album Review (For Alex In NYC)
Killing Joke question (for Mr. Killing Joke)
Alex in NYC - Let's rave about Geordie from Killing joke
killing electroclash joke
Ok, Killing Joke's playing in a club next week, should I go?
TS: Killing Joke's "War Dance" v. XTC's "The War Dance"
26 days til KILLING JOKE hits vancouver....
new killing joke/grohl resume entry
Fire Honours Itself
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 16 April 2004 03:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 03:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 16 April 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link
Anyways, I just finished watching this TV pilot for my work, which features a scene with a young girl giving a guy a mix CD. As she hands it to him, she says "it has all the hot new stuff on it -- The Darkness, Handsome Boy Modeling School (?), Killing Joke..."
Maybe there's one main set dresser/cred consultant lurking in TV land who's a big Joke fanatic...?
― Neb Reyob (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link
My head just exploded.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago) link
does this phenomenon have it's own thread? (not that it DESERVES it, I realize, but that hasn't stopped me before...)
― Neb Reyob (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 10 June 2004 23:57 (twenty years ago) link
Words fail me.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.studio-c.co.uk/maliciousdamage/graphics/chaos.jpg
http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 June 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 11 June 2004 07:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 June 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:51 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.killing-joke.com/gems.gif
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Have you rectified this problem yet?
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 January 2007 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link
Honour the fire!
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 4 January 2007 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 5 January 2007 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 5 January 2007 06:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Friday, 5 January 2007 07:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Are you suggesting the `Joke are not their own? POPPYCOCK, BLASPHEMER!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 5 January 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― john. a resident of chicago. (john s), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link
No no no, that's not what I meant at all (and calm down, man). I mean that they belong so much to this Other Grouping that I feel like an interloper even sampling one of their songs, which I confess to having done over the past week. Actually some of what I've been hearing reminds me of some of the Scars' latter output -- tribal-flavored, danceable post-punk with sharp, angular guitar action. But I'd still "feel like a thief or burglar barging into that territory", as I explained to Bimbler on the temporary forum. Same thing with a few other artists. Speaking of, I wonder where Bimbler is. I'd have thought he'd have poked his head in around here by now.
― Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Saturday, 6 January 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link
That said I did run into "Turn To Red" tonight when playing part of my 8-Disc mix of 1979 tracks that I made a few years ago.
― Good Warlock of the West (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 January 2007 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link
I think you and I need to start discussing things privately more often. I asked if you liked New Order on the other board but you were gone, etc. We've got a good think going Phoenix. Let's talk some more!
― Good Warlock of the West (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 January 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link
this band is shit. Dud
― am0n, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait, are we going to have a new invasion all over again?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
It's YOU who is shit, am0n.
― Alex in NYC, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
That was quicker than I thought!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Why waste time?
― Alex in NYC, Monday, 23 July 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link