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LCD Soundsystem a month or so later was even better, if anything.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 1 September 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

I have to leave like now so I'm only going to say: Cher.

E (ebb), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

As in, I'd just giddily downloaded all of Echoes and then talked to a friend who'd just seen them and he was all "Cher." Of all the comparisons, it's the faintest, but it sticks, somehow, and it's not Sonny-and-Cher Cher or Mask Cher or even asspants Cher but autotuned "Do you buh-leeee-uvvvvv in life after love" Cher that I imagine covering "Olio" or "Sister Savior" or "I Need Your Love" while the band backs her, kinda like when Puffy and Sting did the VMAs that one year, except reverse.

E. (ebb), Monday, 1 September 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

has anyone posted the video yet?

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/universalmotown/universal/therapture/video/00_thehouseofjealouslovers.asx

teeny (teeny), Friday, 5 September 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

nice video.

hstencil, Friday, 5 September 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

I suspect I may have been wrong about them. Granted, they were a load of horrible cacophonous squawking at Glasto, but on first listening the album is GREBT*.

Well, the first half of the album, at any rate. I don't know about the 2nd half, because I haven't been able to stop playing I Need Your Love. Also, I really didn't expect Open Up Your Heart... it's gorgeous.

*This sentence was bought to you by the Campaign For The Rehabilitation of Past-It ILX Slang

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 8 September 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

Matt I knew you'd see sense.

I am kind of burnt out on the album cos I played it to death when I got it. That said I'd go and see them live in a second. Many many more times. Are you sure they didn't fall victim to the Sunday Glasto effect Matt?

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

Haven't heard em but I love the name.

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Monday, 8 September 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

did this hit stores today or what?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

that video is like genetically engineered to fit the ratpure to a t; you could reconstitute the band cargo-cult style just from looking at it.

etc, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

u.k. release was today. u.s. cd release is october 21, but dfa is putting out the vinyl on sept. 30th.
i just heard the blackstrobe remix of 'sister saviour.' it is totally radical.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

i listened to this four times today. it still sounds good, if less flattening than in that first week or so.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 07:24 (twenty years ago) link

i don't think i could listen to the same album 4 times in one day(altho i've come close with Kish Kash lately), but i just wanna add that i listened to 'Sister Saviour' whilst coming back from the FAP last night and it was one of THOSE moments - great great track

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 08:29 (twenty years ago) link

i listened to other stuff in between each time.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 08:30 (twenty years ago) link


i don't think i could listen to the same album 4 times in one day

Back when I still obsessed over music, I once put Rumours on ALL DAY LONG (until the stereo passed out).

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

black strobe mix of sister saviour!! why do you mock me!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:08 (twenty years ago) link

I imagine them turning the opening guitars into Black Strobe trademark French chime noises like in the Number One remix.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

When maxinquaye first came out i don't think it came off my turntable for about 2 weeks.

Listening to Echoes more and more now too - i think it's improving with each listen. HOJL now no longer sounds like the central track - the quieter moments. Open up your heart, colour of spring and Infatuation anre now really the stand out tracks for me.

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:43 (twenty years ago) link

i meant The Coming of Spring, of course!

colin o'hara (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:46 (twenty years ago) link

What was that fake-broken-typewriter font called again?

Trixie.

Jeremy (Jeremy), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link

i see shades of b3ta in the HOJL video: the kittens in the kitten factory, the duck-skull-head man shooting lasers beams at tanks from his eyes

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 11:01 (twenty years ago) link

ronan, you're not far off the mark. they've turned it into a massive industro-synth track. the vocals are there, but that's about it.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:09 (twenty years ago) link

eh...it takes a lot to redeem indie-screech vocals for me, and that beat just isn't doing it...the cowbells are a nice touch, though.

I'd say that that the vox handicap their chances of mainstread success, but Jack White made that awful school of singing safe for radio, so who knows.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 15 September 2003 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

manstread = mainstream

Al (sitcom), Monday, 15 September 2003 00:12 (twenty years ago) link

If the album is at a special introducory price I might buy it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

isn't universal going cheap across the board now?

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 15 September 2003 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

i didn't know they were on universal. and I don't know if that means it's gonna be under ten bucks (Which this would need to be).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 September 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

you can get it for 9 pounds inc shipping from www.cdwow.com

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 September 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

Jesus Anthony, unplug yer ears! The painful screech of The Rapture is about 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times more appealing than the testicleless whine of Limp Bizkit.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 September 2003 02:17 (twenty years ago) link

my copy of this turned up in the mail today and it's a "special edition". what's different to the regular version? is it just a different coloured cover like the Pulp special edition?

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 September 2003 07:14 (twenty years ago) link

Hmmm... Bits of it I really like but I'm not convinced overall. Is it a dancefloor-filling-set or is it an artistic statement because it appears to be trying to be both at certain stages and not fully managing to emerge on the other side as either.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 September 2003 07:32 (twenty years ago) link

Have heard the album, or most of it: they would be fantastic, except the singer is useless. He even ruins my enjoyment of I Need Your Love, which you wouldn't think possible - this perfect intro, and then that ungodly yowl, and ugh. I envy everyone who isn't hyper-sensitive to tuneless yelpy vocals.

cis (cis), Monday, 15 September 2003 09:06 (twenty years ago) link

yeah but if they had a "good singer" on I Need Your Love it wouldn't be too far off regular house music.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 September 2003 09:17 (twenty years ago) link

...and what's wrong with that?

cis (cis), Monday, 15 September 2003 09:27 (twenty years ago) link

come on who likes house music!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 September 2003 09:32 (twenty years ago) link

You do, Ronan.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 September 2003 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

so nobody knows the answer to my question then?

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 September 2003 09:46 (twenty years ago) link

They do, they're just not telling you.

cis (cis), Monday, 15 September 2003 10:02 (twenty years ago) link

I know I do! I checked.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 September 2003 10:17 (twenty years ago) link

i'm seeing them on the 30th at Heaven. now i just need a hot date to accompany me...

stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 September 2003 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

the special edition should have a code or something that allows you to access special stuff on the website: remixes, different versions of tracks, a bunch of dv live footage, yadda yadda. except the microsite's not finished yet, because people are lazy.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 15 September 2003 12:49 (twenty years ago) link

I envy everyone who isn't hyper-sensitive to tuneless yelpy vocals.

This has made my day.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 September 2003 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

"Open Up Your Heart" should be elsewhere on the album. Or on another album. I like it, but not in between "Heaven" and "I Need Your Love"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

I like it! I played it twice in a row, which I never do. Singer isn't so great, but it doesn't really bother me.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

four weeks pass...
their "Silent Morning" is not as good as the freestyle track of the same name by Noel.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

is "Heaven" as good as the Talking Heads track by the same name?

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

is the album as good as the gogogoairheart album?

*cough*

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

It's a different Heaven but it's also quite good. They already had a ballad on the album.

My friend who has the gogogoairheart album says there's only one good song! I've only heard one song from it but I agree that there is at least one good song

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Should I go see them tonight?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 November 2003 19:41 (twenty years ago) link

If I don't, I might go to a bar that's playing all Smiths/Morrissey records all night long. Those are my choices.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 November 2003 19:41 (twenty years ago) link


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