Agree ^
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
ya xp s_o_d
― flopson, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
idk y but its not interesting to read abt how some ilm random never really got epmd or how "can i kick it" is only their third fav tribe single prefer it when ilm lists explode into flameouts abt whats corny & rly peel back the layers of self-hatred -- mb its just me & u guys are relaxin at work tho, im on summer vacation shouldnt even be anywhere near here
― flopson, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
It should be noted that most of the people who usually lead to thread blow-ups aren't posting in this thread.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
come back whiney all is forgiven!
― S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Get lex and Geir in here too while we're at it.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
thing about the first half of a poll is you can only get so pissed off because you don't know whether top 50 or whatever has the stuff you think it should
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
someone made the prescient comment on the albs poll that singles would be less contentious
― no serenade no fire brigade just a trypophobia (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't mind the goodtime vibe up in here
― no serenade no fire brigade just a trypophobia (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
gonna be interesting to see who placed on the albums poll but not on the tracks poll, I think
― S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 4:47 PM (1 hour ago)
on a related note i'll be shocked and saddened if 50 gets shut out
― positive rapper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
eh, I won't
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I voted for one 50 track, but really low.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
And if I had a do over, he probably wouldn't have made it.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
conversely if say "Wanksta" ends up top 10 I renounce you all
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
50 is very very important to his era, but not so much to the big picture (also my entire singles ballot was '80s and '90s, effectively before his career began)
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
#1 will be lucas with the lid off, calling it now
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
50 is awful
― S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks for the insight, dude who never heard any boot camp click til this week
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah how the hell had shakey not heard of BCC i thought he was a super 90s nyc rap stan in like every other thread
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
dunno what would have given you that impression
― S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
also you are welcome
also that's not entirely true I remember hearing the first Smif-n-Wessun album, it was Black Moon I hadn't heard.
― S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
50 is under-appreciated btw. I like his music more now than I did in the mid 00s.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FhVdohucJ4
would have voted this if i didnt vote for only 20
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I almost voted 'If I Can't'
It might have been the last one I cut out.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
that was my fav on grodt
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
will the revelation that dj quik produced the drums on 'in da club' resuscitate 50's rep w/ ilx
i remember when 'in da club' was just a leaked mp3 -- i played it like 20x in a row. the beat was incredible
of course, it became unavoidable for 3 years afterward, which sorta drove it into the ground, but still an exceptional song imo
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
that just makes me disappointed in quik, h8 those drums
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
posts v much in character
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
those drums sound amazing btw
Ha, was just thinking about that Quik point and about In Da Club in general. Its definitely too ubiquitous for me to really appreciate anymore, but yah, sit and listen to it and you realize the greatness.
I went back and listened after the Quik revelation and you can totally hear it, no wonder I like(d) it so much, no wonder it springs like that.
How can you hate those drums?
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't like the snare/clap kind of lurches and clomps and the kick just mirrors the string riff -- also texturally feels like the moment when 'expensive' Aftermath production started to resemble generic TV show music bed rap beats (xpost)
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link
That snare/clap is Quik's signature sound.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link
which of his signature songs can it be heard on
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
So many ways, let's get down, luv of my life.
Off the top, driving home now.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
We still party, I don't wanna party with you
Maybe not his "signature sound" but a technique/sound he uses pretty often.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
This was the peak of gunit production fuiud
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link
o_O that isn't even the best beat on GRODT
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
serioulsy... beats from Poor Lil Rich, What Up Gangsta, Poppin Them Thangs, How We Do, On Fire >>> In Da Club beat
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's crazy deej
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link
it's an iconic beat but i don't think it's the best
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't mean this beat in particular, I was disagreeing w al saying this was the beginning if the end. But that said yall are way underrating it here bcuz it was overplayed
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't say it was the beginning of the end of anything, just that it was a point when the Dre/Aftermath sound kinda got too shiny and expensive for my taste -- obviously the G-Unit sound was just developing and merging with that into something new at that point
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Yah I mean I remember thinking this beat was easily the best on the record when it first leaked, before it was a single. I don't think that any more but I think we're def underrating it if u think poppin them things is better
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
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lol
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link
"In da Club" is one of my favorite rap beats ever
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link
eh it's best when the one is married to the other ennit
Of course, but content on its own goes a lot further than technique on its own. (And that's not even to say that Kanye doesn't have technique. He does. He's just, um, non-traditional.)
― Parenthetical Grillz, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, the perfect marriage of technique and content would probably make for a pretty boring song. Artist's flaws and failures are often their most compelling aspects. There's something about Kanye's rap delivery that's totally punk rock, and I feel like he recognizes that and uses it to his advantage. Every song he's on, he raps in his voice--there's no mistaking it. You can't even say that about his production.
(Preparing to get berated in 3... 2... 1...)
― Parenthetical Grillz, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Gimme The Loot is still p much the most shocking thing hiphop has done
Why?
I just assumed that they'd have been on the same page Coldcut-wise, back in the day. Maybe they were. Maybe he's changed.
Nah, R thought (or claimed to think) it was great at the time. The biggest mystery is why Eric was so butthurt about it when he didn’t actually produce the records.
Missy toured here less than a year ago (she was terrible)
The Flashing Lights version with R Kelly on it is fantastic, but I think Kells might have just done it himself, rather than it being an official remix..?
― all cats are gay (sic), Thursday, 9 June 2011 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I've never really known what's the deal about the production Paid in Full... IIRC, in the album sleeve Marley Marl is credited as a remixer on two of the tracks (not "Paid in Full", though), and some other guy is credited as the producer of "Move the Crowd", and everything else is credited to Eric B. & Rakim. So are you saying that Marley Marl produced the whole album but didn't get the credit? Or that Rakim produced it and Eric B. only did the scratches?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 9 June 2011 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link