― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link
this means that le tigre's song should be judged especially for its political content?
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link
(PS2: The video shows a banner that says 'Wars shouldn't be started by draft dodgers.' I'd just like to say that the last three words are redundant and cloud the message, and should have been left out, or pixellated, to erase the silly idea that someone who had served in the military would have the right to start a war.)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Politics and aesthetics can be tangled up, but a bad song is just this and nothing more. Some Eisenstein movies could have a disturbing Stalinist subtext, still they remain a good film (bad comparison, I know, but first thing I could made up).
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link
John Lennon, author of 'Give Peace A Chance', a song I'm glad exists.
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Two, one two three fourEv'rybody's talking aboutBagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, TagismThis-ism, that-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m.
All we are saying is give peace a chanceAll we are saying is give peace a chance
C'monEv'rybody's talking about Ministers,Sinisters, Banisters and canistersBishops and Fishops and Rabbis and Pop eyes,And bye bye, bye byes.
Let me tell you nowEv'rybody's talking aboutRevolution, evolution, masturbation,flagellation, regulation, integrations,meditations, United Nations,Congratulations.
Ev'rybody's talking aboutJohn and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary,Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Cooper,Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer,Alan Ginsberg, Hare Krishna,Hare, Hare Krishna
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link
'Have you confessed your sins to Jesus?My dear boy, get this:The sin of your body was invented by a gang of holy quacks.If you like their invention, that's your business.I don't.Practice of the common virtues of honesty, kindness, understanding, consideration for mankindHas nothing to do with religion and never hasHad anything to do with it.And religion as it is practiced is one of the curses of the race.'
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link
A final lesson of our comparison is this: the Zen Buddhists do not think differently than the Western philosophers. When it comes to defining truth and articulating the metaphysical assumptions behind the practieal application of this theory, the difference between the traditions is slight. The Zen and Aristotelian/Thomistic traditions diverge only when they consider what the purpose of thinking is and what the basic relationship between man and world is. Aristotle/Thomas and Hui-neng/Lin-chi/Dogen are not sets of writers who think differently; they are groups of philosophers who disagree about what we should think about. (B.P.Kasulis, Philosophy East and West)
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link
heaven,hellcountries,things to kill or die forreligionwarpossesionsgreedhungerproperty
Things affirmed by 'Imagine':
skyliving for todaypeacedreamsbrotherhoodsharingunity
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link
in my opinion, lennon's nihilism is based on the refuse/repulsion of what is (or has been considered) the simple truth of human condition: war AND peace, heaven AND sky, property AND sharing etc. A world without the idea of god would be maybe better, surely wouldn't be human. utopia is nihilistic almost by definition.by the way, i've always been surprised by the ecumenical (no pun here) success of this song, even at Republican conventions!, despite its content...
sorry my english isn't good enough so i cannot properly explain me...
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Is it on SLSK at all?
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link
The peoblem, maybe, is that people were taking them seriosuly before this came out.
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link
But this song really isn't awful or anything, just not as good.It's looking like the member they lost after the first LP was key, isn't it?
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Friday, 20 August 2004 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link
B-but it's the same rhythm used on 'We Didn't Start The Fire' by Billy Joel!
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Momus, are you being "ironic" or is there something wrong with your brain?
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Friday, 20 August 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link
until the NO BLOOD FOR OIL part
― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Friday, 20 August 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
As far as this le tigre is concerned, I have access to a recording of Eleanor Roosevelt telling a racist joke about the Japanese while entertaining troops, if we're all curious about what democracy sounds like.
But for the video, hey: they're shootin' hoops, brah!
― sexyDancer, Friday, 20 August 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link
PLEASE!I'M DESPERATE!!!
― mei (mei), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link
No wonder I loathe it so much.
― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link