Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

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Never heard of Liquid Tapedeck, Chuck.

You're going to quote 'Hi-Tech Redneck' to me next, aren't you?

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Nah, I was trying to remember that Joe Ely robocowboy one from 1981 or so, but I can't.

― chuck, Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

As for liquid tapedeck, they can beat peons over the head with how subversive and deconstructive they wish they were as well as ANYBODY, I promise (well, not was well as dj spooky, maybe, but they have way better song titles than him): http://www.thetapedeck.com/

― chuck, Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

haha - "i prefer the fat janeane"

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Ew, Chuck, you made me look at some penises.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

the "fat Janeane" is no joke, I preferred her too!

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

klaus nomi did sci-fi country briefly with his rubberband lazer which i'm shocked mr. currie hasn't mentioned. actually, i'm shocked he reappeared.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay Chuck check your email.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh and Parliament's "Little Ol' Country Boy" is still relevant to this discussion.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes. Klaus Nomi's homosexual kabuki robot cowboy song 'Rubberband Laser' towers over Big and Rich like Mozart over Salieri. Thanks for reminding me, frenchbloke. Hit me with your laserbeams!

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I just saw these guys do a music mafia thing on some silly awards show. Gretchen Wilson too. They totaly came off like the the B-52's with all the camp and odd stage setup. Actually, the song medley's reminded me of them too. It was hard to see what there is to dislike.

And Gretchen Wilson can fucking sing.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, like I said above, when they played live here they blatantly incoporated "Love Shack" (I think) basslines into "Love Train."

But they both sing *waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay* better than Fred Schneider.

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

oh that's tough

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

are there any country singers that have worse singing voices than Fred Schneider? I think I might actually want to hear that!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

waylon jennings had a way worse voice than fred! so did kris kristofferson, maybe. i'm pretty sure waylon was worse, though.

hasn't jello biafra attempted to sing country songs on some of his CDs? his voice sounds more like fred's than anybody else's ever has.

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Fred Schneider's voice. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Is Waylon's voice bad? I never thought of it that way. That 2-disc comp of his hits that came out a couple of years ago is good stuff.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I love Fred Schneider's voice. I just don't think it's tough for a country singer to have a better one in a sense.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I've always thought Waylon was completely *painful* to listen to, even when I kind of like him (which is, um, once in a great while).

Fred actually sounded great in one song on a Bosco album a couple years ago, though.

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh wait, I know! Butch Hancock! He can't sing at ALL! (Unless I'm thinking of Jimmy Dale Gilmore; I totally get those guys mixed up.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't hear waylon's voice as being anywhere as awful as fred schneider's. kristofferson's, on the other hand, sounds like to me like the country leonard cohen. except that leonard cohen respects his limits.

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, jimmie dale gilmore has a pretty bad voice...nasally and croaky simultaneously. who'd have thought it possible?

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate everybody.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh that's right, It's been a while since I took a look at this thread. Anyway, I agree. But the B-52's are much much funnier and Cindy and Kate are both way better singers.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I still consider Cosmic Thing to be one of the finest albums in recording history. This might be because I've had it since I was 9 though.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

This album (of the decade) is getting a lot of play at frat parties and strip clubs.

― Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Cindy and Kate are both way better singers.

er... no.

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

>But the B-52's are much much funnier <

Also no (at least for the past 25 years).

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

er... no.

er, YEAH.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

this has been a really shitty decade

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

The albums I prefer to Big & Rich's (and there are plenty) are definitely more exlcusively subcultural and/or youth-oriented, so I can see the logic of this being an album of the decade (so far - we're only at the half way point), even if it's not my own. Can't think of an album that anybody over 30 would offer that would be more deserving (though feel free to correct me).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C23DP.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

gah!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Those Big and Rich harmonies sounded particularly thin last night. Gretchen Wilson repeatedly blew them away when her songs came up.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

beside the point. Compared to my favorite albums of the decade that have a specific worldview (Desaparecidos, Good Charlotte, Nellie McKay for instance), Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade (hell, maybe if the Black Eyed Peas got their shit further together).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade

wha? huh?

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah that entire post made absolutely no sense to me. What is an "open worldview anthem"?

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

sting - "brand new day"

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah that was a clumsy post, I apologize. The Big & Rich album strikes me as a very inclusive, anthemic album that, unlike most of the albums I prefer over it, don't come from quite as personal, subcultural or as youth-oriented a context (except for the few songs that are about being Big & Rich). I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

and fuck a sting

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency." - ok this has me baffled

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't think of an album that's as solid without being more distinctly personal, youth-oriented or subcultural. As I said earlier, please feel free to nominate others.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

the beatles - sgt. peppers

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

cute

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

so basically, what you're saying is: "it's not indie. it's well-produced. it is also a better album than anything else that is not indie and is well-produced that was released so far this decade."

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

waylon jennings had a way worse voice than fred! so did kris kristofferson, maybe. i'm pretty sure waylon was worse, though.

noooo way....krisofferson's voice just sucks....waylon had a great voice! it was manly! just i'm surprised you don't like his outlaw stuff like "are you sure hank done it this way" and "don't you think this outlaw bit's done got outta hand"....god waylon was great.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

if you actually read what I wrote earlier, frankE, there's plenty of non-indie stuff I like more. It's just that most are blatantly written from the perspective of someone in their early 20s or written in a personal "this song is about ME" way. So if somebody over 30 wants to say the Big & Rich is the best album of the decade so far I've got no beef with it.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kseger/confused.gif

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry I'm wasting your time

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

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