what artist, if any, is worth doing an ILM tracks poll?

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Madonna and Prince would be the two I would feel least qualified to vote in but most interested in following.

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― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:08 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

this, also! Bookmarked the hip hop one to find out what good stuff I've been missing!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Argh xp, Positive K *really* needed that single extra vote to make the 100

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

As far as I can see there's been about seven threads devoted to single artist write in polls over the past month. It's hardly overloading the board, there's usually about half a dozen 'radio button' polls finishing each day.

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

What was the structure of the Pavement poll? 3 days to vote, 3 days' reveal? I think a 2-day reveal would be fine for all these, whether it's a top-50 or top-60.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I do think nominations are a little silly for single artist polls; check a discography for yr eligible tracks.

There are also bands I want to do (or see) completely skewed, counter-intuitive polls to force critical re-evaluation on segments of material, like a post-1990 Depeche Mode poll or a no singles Orbital poll (obv not with a top 50, lol)

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Ismael: damnit!!!! Honestly though I wouldn't be able to do 50 songs without adding 10 Jay-z, the Busta remix of Fantasy, etc. Woulda been laughed out of the thread.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Eh, I ran out of time (lol work) but my ballot basically would have been "every song by my favorite x artists plus like 5 classics"

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

@DJP - New Order post-Technique poll? ::shudders::

Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, the initial threads for the Traxpoll aren't so much a "nom" as a "bigup" for certain tracks.

Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

KDT: Yes, exactly! Obv getting people to opt in would be difficult but I think there's some value in exploring/re-evaluating a band when they fall out of their "unadulterated genius" period

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

hey before the flood can we make a rule that only one of these can go on at once

clicked "like" button on this one

censored my own brad whitford joke (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Yo La Tengo (27-year-discography, wide-ranging opinions about recent work) would be an interesting poll for a year or so down the line.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Nick Cave

President Keyes, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted Bowie, but could've easily gone for other (Tom Waits)

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

predictably, I voted for Zeppelin

censored my own brad whitford joke (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

people find the results roll-out process so seductive (increasingly so in presentation terms too e.g. v positive reaction to video screen grabs with text on them for tracks ) that i do think most polls are created more for this (intensified communal) experience than a genuine curiosity about and value of the results (in most cases). so yeah journey > destination, that's more an observation than a criticism (i was and still am pretty into the presentation aspect like a maniac - been working on a site to display list/poll results in cool ways for ages but never finished because actual important stuff gets in the way).

an artist-specific poll could be good for someone who wants a quick easy guide to that artist but not necessarily more than a S/D, C/D, POX or just general discussion thread about them.

blueski, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"one at a time" partisans, can we at least agree that once the reveal starts for X, the voting can start for Y?

this seems like a good schedule

how much time per results thread?

iatee, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll do a Beach Boys poll but will probably wait a bit

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

too late bro I claimed the boys

iatee, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

omg I can't wait for the multiple threads of trying to coordinate this "one poll at a time idea"

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I don't see why there has to be a schedule? if I don't want to see a thread I just don't click that link?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

too late bro I claimed the boys

― iatee,

*hats off*

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I don't see why there has to be a schedule? if I don't want to see a thread I just don't click that link?

this seems to be a really hard concept for people to grasp

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Is that coördinating thread just for single artists, or for all polls. Because I quite fancy trying a disco one.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah but a load of polls on the front page at once makes it harder to see the rest, and causes niche interest threads to drop off New Answers more quickly. Also, the more polls there are going on at once the less likely they are to get wide participation and comment.

Kinda amazed the first post on that thread wasn't someone immediately going I CLAIM INSANE CLOWN POSSE.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

no way am I running one of these polls

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost
I guess we were waiting for Dan to step up to the plate.

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

"one at a time" partisans, can we at least agree that once the reveal starts for X, the voting can start for Y?

Well, there is that point where the voting date End has passed.

Do not be beholdern on the results thread starting, as it could happen that the results never happen! (remember that 80s poll?)

Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Things these polls do:
1. Take two threads each, one for announcing the voting itself and another for the results.
2. Spur discussion about a band some people love, some people like, and some people are simply curious about. As noted upthread, the scheduled rollout may artificially prolong the discussion, but it's prolonged nonetheless.
3. Crown a winner! Yippee! But as also noted upthread, finding out what wins isn't the fun part. The journey is.

Things these polls DON'T do:
1. Clutter up the board if done one at a time. See previous item #1.
2. Force anyone to participate.
3. Proclaim superiority of one style over another. For example, just because I organized a poll for "Pavement" doesn't mean you can't organize a poll for "Destiny's Child/members thereof". I'll be interested in that one even if you aren't interested in mine.

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Tbh, I can't believe how concerned people are about "cluttering up the board". We already have so many damned threads, its hardly to make THAT big of a difference.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I might end up turning my 1970 Album Openers thread into a poll...

best way to stop identity theft is bad credit (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm livid about this one topping SNA tbh

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry

best way to stop identity theft is bad credit (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

predictably, I voted for Zeppelin

― censored my own brad whitford joke (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:28 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

same

some dude, did you put the ramones on this as a joke

I voted for this poll. pretty unnecessary.

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ha Ramones was just thrown in there at the last minute as a "hmmm who is beloved on ILM that had a lengthy career" but yeah i guess it's not a very realistic one

Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

LCD Soundsystem

imho you gotta get the fanboys/girls out in #s otherwise it's just another boring low-participation poll.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

what ilm really needs is a PAVEMENT vs SONIC YOUTH ilx system-run poll

the loser gets their name autoreplaced with whogivesashit.jpg from now until the sun burns out

neti pot, kombucha, how to die alone (Lamp), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

neither sonic youth nor pavement posts here though

Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

keep working

neti pot, kombucha, how to die alone (Lamp), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

?

Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Track polls I would like to see/would participate in:

Saint Etienne (huge amount of great B-sides and fanclub-only tracks)
Pet Shop Boys
New Order
Pulp
Morrissey

daavid, Thursday, 16 June 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Brian Eno
Creation Records
Roxy Music
Exile On Main Street
U2

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Best song on Exile On Main Street

Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Not an artist, and I don't know that we have the expertise to carry it off right, but what would be really incredible would be a 'The Caribbean' poll.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Steely Dan--I guess only hardcore fans turn out to vote in these things, but I love how passionate the Pavement one got, I bet SD would be the same, albeit for a different ILM demo (maybe?)

Iago Galdston, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I like how each one of these might involve different numbers of votes per ballot, different numbers on the reveal, different point distributions, depending on the person running it. The Pavement voting structure was weird, but at least it was weird for everyone.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Friday, 17 June 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Creation Records

Would support this and other record label polls, or at least those with a well defined aesthetic, Motown, Factory, Warp etc

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Friday, 17 June 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Tbh, I can't believe how concerned people are about "cluttering up the board". We already have so many damned threads, its hardly to make THAT big of a difference.

naw but man whenever there's a new thing like POX or "best album by" or whatever ILM new answers becomes this really offputting TWENTY NEW THREADS OF THE NEW IDEA thing...it's just sloppy and ugly. Always a head-smackin bummer when this happens


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