On the Doors' "The End," does Jim Morrison say "Mother, I want to fuck you"?

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He's not afraid of using the word 'fuck' in that song i can tell you.

It may have to do with context & "decency" - not that he ever cared much about decency laws - but he may have been strung up from a tree if he had sung those words in the wrong city.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thank fuck he didn't.

Paul Rigel (rigel), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

there's no doubt about it, jim often used the phrase "mother, i want to fuck you..." in multiple performances of the song... it's not on the original vinyl of "the doors" or any subsequent reprints that i know of; however, it's on several bootlegs and greatest hits comps with live performances as well as (possibly) the soundtrack to apocalypse now...

ko hsüan, Saturday, 19 October 2002 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe Densmore's parents were tripping?

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 19 October 2002 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Any more evidence of this "fuck you" version?

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

mark go watch apocalypse now.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

anybody know if he ever did?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

Sort of unrelated, but I kind of hate how in the Doors movie, when they did "Light My fire" on Ed Sullivan, they made Morrison's character scream the word "higher" and be really blatant about it, when the actual performance was nothing like that.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I have a bootleg of a show from March 1967 where he quite clearly says "fuck" and "fuck the mother" - repeatedly and with no small amount of enthusiasm, I might add.

I've never heard this bit about it being there in the studio version. I never took note of it in Apocalypse Now either come to think of it, but I haven't seen the movie in years.

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

Sort of unrelated, but I kind of hate how in the Doors movie, when they did "Light My fire" on Ed Sullivan, they made Morrison's character scream the word "higher" and be really blatant about it, when the actual performance was nothing like that.

It's called creative license. I don't think that the guy who screams after that happens really existed either, but it doesn't really upset me.

The fucks definitely are in several official live CD collections, which certain would sound very much like studio versions, except extended. But it wouldn't surprise me that they'd record two different versions - I mean, why not? It's an established fact that Break on Through's original lyrics were "She gets high", not "She get", but they changed that for the album and did the original version live.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

The "She gets high"s are in the newly-remastered edition of the first album, as are the "Kill kill kill! Fuck fuck fuck!"s in "The End." Maybe that's when John's mom was hearing, because there are no studio versions of Jimbo saying "Mother I want to fuck you." Even in the remastered version, he goes "Mother I want to.... RAAPPPPPPPEEEE YOU!!!!!"

At least I think it's "rape you."

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

And he still wants to ride the snake to the lake as a blue bus calls to him and his companions. Heavy stuff.

Christian Rawk (Christian Rawk), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:56 (twenty years ago) link

I used to have a Doors live video, live at the hollywood bowl or something, and he definately sang "mother...I want to...aaa fuck you mother, all night long, wanna be your baby" or something to that effect.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

what would jim's poor mum make of all this?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
So... is there a final answer on this?

Manny Parsons, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
some of you are claiming to have this so-called "explicit" version of the song. YSI it if ya got it, settle this shit once and for all.

richard wood johnson, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

get a life you fucks.

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

jeez Morrison did Darling Nikki 15 years ahead of its time!

"Darling Nikki" was about a guy fucking his mother?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
The mythic qualities presented here even further cement this as my favorite Doors track.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

jeez Morrison did Darling Nikki 15 years ahead of its time!
"Darling Nikki" was about a guy fucking his mother?

Didn't Xhuxk say something about this in THE ACCIDENTAL EVOLUTION OF R&R?
Jim=Prince(=Elivs Costello as well, if I remember correctly).

Handsome Dan, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

ok I am CERTAIN that I picked up a doors box set that had been remainder binned in a JB hi-fi sale that had, as the last track on the last disc "the end (uncensored version)" or something like that. of course now I'm googling it to try and find it and can't, perhaps mark's 'collective hallucination' theory is OTM.

haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan's right: He indeed sings "...fuck you mama" etc. in the Hollywood Bowl concert video. Presumably that's the same version used on the box set.

But what I wanna know is: Did he REALLY record the vocal for "You're Lost Little Girl" while receiving a blowjob?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 07:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I have definitely heard the rude version, but I have no idea where.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

ALL THE CHILDREN ARE INSANE

gods jangle the key change (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link


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