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i have to admit it's very weird to see captain rasclaat staring out me 4' X 4' from posters in local stores here in bumfuck...he's just a poor boy a long way from home...

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

Actually Cozen aren't you coming down to London soonish (or did I miss you?)

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

I got mine from Cage Records. Cost the same as Tom's.

Wiley's hats crack me up. Also D Double on his bike, JME, Jammer, and Skepta drinking champagne in the studio for Skepta's birthday. I'm still getting through it all, but it's gold and it makes me homesick for some reason. :( Haven't heard so many London accents for a while...

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 8 February 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

The best thing is that the whole aesthetic is brilliantly, yeah, not expensive, but there is a warning on the back of the box that says BEWARE OF CHEAP IMITATIONS

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 8 February 2004 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

ca you get this from that shop in bethnal green? (I'd like to visit that one of these days).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 February 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

Wow, "Problems" is a straight-up pop tune! For some reason, my iTunes has decided that Wiley's genre is "Gay".

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 8 February 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago) link

that's where i got mine from. it's the bow end of Roman though, not the bethnal end, mile end is closer, tube station wise if you know your way around.

― luke'''', Sunday, 8 February 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

thanks.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 February 2004 18:21 (twenty years ago) link

wow "problems" is pretty great...so emo! and the little melody running in the background reminds me of something 80s i can't quite place. "what u call it": not so good.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 8 February 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago) link

(thanks luke & tico tico, i'm on it.)

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 8 February 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

oh and yeah i'm in london april 1st - i'll probably pick it up then if the excitement doesn't get the better of me.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 8 February 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

i guess i should get this really, i have too many films to watch at the moment though (it'd be like regle de jeu vs wiley fite!! etc etc.)

i'd love to place problems, as soon as i get 10mins i'll do an mp3 of the dub i'm talking about from the rinse shows last year.

― toby (tsg20), Sunday, 8 February 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

the little melody running in the background reminds me of something 80s i can't quite place

yes! wtf is it??

I might be able to put some stuff off of the DVD online...

Toby, La Regle Du Jeu is f***'in murky, believe.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 8 February 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

Grrr there are heaps of Target tunes in the new Femme Fatale mix (04/02) but for some reasons it's still playing the 14/01 set for me!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 February 2004 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

me too.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 9 February 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

wiley beats regle de jeu! (haha is tht godard? um, or melville? no... no? no, tht's le cercle rouge, 'it's all french' innit.)

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 9 February 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i still get 14/01, too :-(

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 9 February 2004 08:23 (twenty years ago) link

re: the LOTD DVD - they should have given me a call, I've got all the gear and everything...

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

so is 'what do u call it' really wiley's first single? not feeling it at all.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 9 February 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

Am I the only person who quite likes it?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

No.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

it's like ok, but considering how much i loved it as an instrumental... it's disappointing.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 9 February 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago) link

i'm offically disappointed. i would have been more disappointed had i not expected to be disappointed. igloo is so amazingly good that you can only conclude that wiley's vocal sucks all the life out of it. which is a sad conclusion to have to come to.

i hereby confess to never having heard problems.

i have heard a doogz tune about the desirability of going back to school though.

― ''''''''', Monday, 9 February 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

okay i like "what do u call it" 2000% more after playing it loud in the car today

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

did he reproduce "igloo" for it? the whub-whub-whub in the lowend sounds kinda gentrified

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

>even guys like martin clark who don't like the MC stuff like target

HEY!!! i NEVER said i don't like MCs, i'm just fussy because there are so many shit ones out there. standards are no bad thing.

― martin (martin), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, it does sound a bit gentrified doesn't it, meddling cuntbags

― '''''', Tuesday, 10 February 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

perfect for dinner parties and gallery openings now

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

and anyway martin you should be proud, i jst mentioned your wiley cover story on my blog, what more recognition could a man want?

― ''''''', Tuesday, 10 February 2004 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

oh i'm honoured ;)

― martin (martin), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

wiley beats regle de jeu! (haha is tht godard? um, or melville? no... no? no, tht's le cercle rouge, 'it's all french' innit.)

Jean Renoir! 1939! Not so grimey on the beautiful superblazo BFI DVD you need this fucker in your lives. It fucking roxx. Renoir: pioneer of street level realism: obviously ardkore.

― Engrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 10:59 (twenty years ago) link

due for release Feb 16th (I think)
The below was ripped from the RWD forum - if you want to see the post just type Target in their search function:

" Target's Aim High mixtape preview

Aim High Presents Vol 1 featuring...
GODSGIFT, DONAE’O, D DOUBLE & FOOTSIE, BREEZE, J2K, WOLFPACK
HANNAH, MAYHEM, FLOW DAN, SCRATCHY, CRAZY TITCH, BIGGIE PITBULL, JAMAKABI, WILEY, KANO & DEMION, RIKO, MAXWELL D, PAY AS U GO FEAT. DIZZEE & WILEY, JET LI, BRAZEN, OT FEAT DOGZILLA & SYER.

Production primarily from Target but also TNT, Danny Weed and Geeneus

Will be available from rhythm, uptown, etc... "

looks pretty much essential

― binman, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

Riko!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

So he's out of jail?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

I've got a tape of him and God's Gift from October 2003 - think he's been out since around that time.

― flimflam, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

AIM HIGH PRESENTS VOLUME 1

1. INTRO – GODSGIFT
2. DONAE1O – PEOPLE DON1T KNOW (DANNY WEED XCLUSIVE)
3. D DOUBLE & FOOTSIE – U DON1T WANNA WAR WITH MAN (TNT)
4. BREEZE – NIGGA PLEASE (TNT XLCLUSIVE)
5. J2K - FREESTYLE (YOUNG GUNZ BEAT)
6. WOLFPACK – WOLF1S ARE LURKING (DANNY WEED)
7. HANNAH – FALLING (TARGET)
8. MAYHEM - MILKSHAKE FREESTYLE
9. FLOW DAN – PASS THAT DUTCH FREESTYLE
10. SCRATCHY – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
11. BREEZE – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
12. CRAZY TITCH – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
13. FLOW DAN – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
14. BIGGIE PITBULL - SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
15. MAYHEM – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
16. JAMAKABI - SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
17. WILEY - FREESTYLE (RAH DIGGA BEAT)
18. KANO & DEMION – BRING ARMS (DANNY WEED)
19. RIKO – CHOSEN ONE (TARGET)
20. SCRATCHY – P.E.N.C.I.L BOY (TARGET)
21. BREEZE - FREESTYLE (TARGET)
22. MAXWELL D – MY WOMAN (TARGET)
23. PAY AS U GO FEAT. DIZZEE & WILEY – WATCHING U (TARGET & GEENEUS)
24. JET LI & MAYHEM – TRY (TARGET)
25. GODSGIFT – BUS, BUS, BUS RMX (TARGET)
26. BRAZEN – BUFF GIRLS (TARGET)
27. OT FEAT DOGZILLA & SYER – STD (TARGET)
28. FLOW DAN – SOUNDBOYS (TARGET)
29. BIGGIE PITBULL - FREESTYLE (TARGET)

― martin (martin), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 11:21 (twenty years ago) link

mmm looks good.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

Chosen One!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

Nice to see Flow Dan on there, too.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

Tim's 03 round-up, so good I read it twice over.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 12 February 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

It's funny. The backing track for R.U.F.F. (which I really like)reminds me of nothing so much as early Mu-ziq.

― bugged out, Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

Strange you say that, because Problems instantly reminded me of a few tracks off of Royal Astronomy.

Hmmm....

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.xlrecordings.com/wiley/

― Paul (scifisoul), Sunday, 15 February 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

whoops...
this is the correct link:
RealPlayer-N.A.S.T.Y.

this doesn't work anymore... does anybody have a new download location? thnx...

― xxtina, Monday, 16 February 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

more lotd2 comment: that wiley tune, bastard, sounds rubbish on the cd! he keeps on going, we're gonna push the bass up, push the levels, but the sound gets quieter! vocals too high in the mix!

my new best tune on there is the ears freestyle. mainly cos he uses so many silly grammatical tersm. go linguistics! "adjective and a full stop!".

also, i'm into the essentials tune. who the fuck are ears and essentials? luka? anyone?

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 16 February 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

essentials are some boys from new cross/deptford. there's quite a few of them. they did a tune called 'get over it' (i think) that did alright. they were on the young man standig show too, one of them can be heard saying (something along he lines of)
'oi, it' not fair, pass the mic, you mans are big already'
they're also featured on the dvd.

dunno who ears is.
i like the dancehall mafia one too, though ghetto is now in nsaty as i'm sure you already know.

― luke''', Monday, 16 February 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

few thoughts on lord of the decks 2:
- doogs sounds like a Eastend version of Bounty Killer (especially when she shouts "IT'S REEEEEAL!! THEY DON'T KNOW!”-stylee)
- wiley/kylie 'skit' – what's that all about? I mean, doogs said (on DVD) that the beef is squashed so why diss?
- Kano is a godawlful MC. Dizzee blasted his freestyle!
- too much wack hip hop titles in the second half of the compilation
Conclusion – 'Street Beats' comp. is much better. The best moment on 'LOTD2' is still NASTY 'Cock Back' (tha booomb!)
And yeah – was it a big problem to write the names of the riddims on the sleeve?

― streethooligan, Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago) link

NdoubleA

― scg, Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

*revive*

am back on slsk (fucking finally!) and d/l a bunch of wiley tunes as well as the lord of the decks 2 comp. anything else around recently.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

Julio, get all the Ruff Sqwad you don't have NOW (if you don't have it all). You can get it from me. Use the 1st part of my email addy.

Grime thread needs love!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

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