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haha that book is pretty good tho

xpos YES

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

blount, your gap between junod and sylvester is approximately 1.43298 zillion miles.

― don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

he should avoid a hip-hop book, those things never sell. teagan presley bio all the way, and then a funny how to book about scoring milfs, then maybe a collection of 'essays' on various pop trivia including a first published in esquire feature on mischa barton that may stretch the truth slightly, then, if the time is right, a guest shot on around the horn.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i predict a long career of being the guy making funny hand gestures in the background of cobrasnake photos

― gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

who are you, his agent?

i'm sure that's been the gameplan since his freshman year.

xpost

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

is it time for the "WHAT'S ON NICK SYLVESTER'S IPOD?" thread yet?

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

lol @ gear

maybe a reader-submitted mcsweeneys list too?

― ,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there anything Nick's written for the voice that hasn't had some sort of parody disclaimer or was at least written in the guise of being a gossipy music article?

um, this story?

i know all the facts aren't out, so it's hard to judge this situation completely. but i'm kinda weirded out by people making the "c'mon-they-should've-known" defense. even if you think the editors should've known -- which is a stretch, and you'd need to know what kind of talk went on between reporter and editors -- there's no way the reader can know. and yeah, it's fluff. guess what? writing good fluff is hard. having the right quotes, the right anecdotes, it takes work like anything else. making shit up is making shit up.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

F U N N I E S T W A Y S T O S E L L C R A C K

By Nick Sylvester

Use slang I can't understand.

Be from the south, or at least, Virginia.

Have avant garde minimalist production.

Wear Bathing Ape sometimes, if not a bucket hat.

Be poor and Black.

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost: (and i can't believe people are getting into whether the guy who apparently wasn't there and never talked to the writer is a fratboy or not. that's the lamest excuse i've ever heard. there's no "unless it's a fratboy" exemption in the ethics rules.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

Capital "B," cuz.

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

is might magazine responsible for this klosterman/strauss/sylvester type of fluffpiece writer? i never read it but it seems like eggers pre-new sincerity definitely would've been this type of asshole.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

capital b what?? i doubt nick would put caps on 'black' (unless he was poppin a cap on a black lol slang) but i do

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

is it time for the "WHAT'S ON NICK SYLVESTER'S IPOD?" thread yet?

-- sean gramophone (sea...), March 2nd, 2006 11:35 AM.

Yes.

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm still wondering how making up the quotes somehow, in some people's mind, automatically makes the piece a "parody."

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

it means indie nerd rock critics w/ ties to pfork & the voice are choosing bullshit hipster crew love over journalism

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

like all those republicans who 'stand behind' tom delay

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

ethan yr verging on dom territory here

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

amirite?

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh OUCH

― Dan (That's Mean, Jess) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

haha

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry, sorry

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

'this thread needs to go, actually'

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

that was actually a fabricated quote on my part from myself

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

"verging"

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

any similarities between crack rappers and actual people, living or dead, are coincidental

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I shall be keeping all your names for the roman a clef about ILX I am writing with Edmund Morris, who shall interact with all of us when we were six.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Though perhaps 'interact' is too neutral a term.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

seriously trife if anything get on him for biting aidin vaziri's style, failing to kiss musicians' asses is hardly a crime even if *gasp* they're rappers. not everyone can be byron allen dude.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

"Calliope niggas made the St. Thomas look like church..."

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Wondering when this would get back around to Nik Cohn.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

noblesse oblige is better than nothing i guess

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

failing to kiss musician's asses /= dehumanizing solipsistic bullshit, half of which is made up

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

he didnt even bother to learn the name of which rapper from franchize he was talking to

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Every time ILX invokes the postmodernism excuse for Nick Sylvester, a masked guman kicks Jill Carroll in the face.

― Never Work (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah jess nobless oblige, im using my immense personal wealth to give handouts to rappers & label owners w/ 100k albums sold & 2 hummers in the garage

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

& if you think i 'kiss ass' w/ every interview subject you dont know shit - astoundly you tend to get better stories from treating mmusicians like people instead of being a dick, ignoring what they say & then making shit up

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

whatever byron

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

you're right though - boring, fawning celebrity puffpieces = the best journalism you'll ever read, esp with musicians who god knows definitely deserve respect and have interesting things to say.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

is the article still online anywhere, the links above seem busted

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

ethan there's a gulf of difference between making shit up and being needlessly deferential as i am sure you know.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

what about being needlessly dickish and getting everything wrong?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:pERKO8MDWugJ:www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0609,sylvester,72342,15.html+sylvester+voice+strauss&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

Agree that pulling it down was an error in judgment. It's not the crime, it's the coverup, etc...

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

where the fuck did i praise 'boring, fawning celebrity puffpieces'?

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"captain save-a-hack" haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

― lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't realize Blount and Jess had so much respect for Riff Raff interviews.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

haha i won't start naming who i think nick is a better writer than when he tries

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i highly doubt any egos will be bruised

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"when he tries"

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

failing to kiss musicians' asses is hardly a crime

we're drafting legislation though

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

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