Manic Street Preachers Destructive Alienating Cultural and Despair Filled Tracks POLL RESULTS

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that's the only one on the list that I'm sure I voted for. Great song.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Friday, 24 June 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

vocal rhythms of ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayit'sworldwouldfallapart really get stuck in my head. "unimportant just another inner city drive by thing", who'd have thought such a line would be so catchy?

ledge, Friday, 24 June 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

otm - really top craft from jdb there

Also hurrah for 'Too Cold Here' - I missed it off at the last moment for its bleakness, which was stupid.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 24 June 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, top respect to bradfield for corralling all of that lyrical lunacy. i love it when you can tell he has changed something to crowbar a lyric in and it only just makes sense still. am i right in remembering that the GT lyrics book has "throw some acid into the mona lisa's face" in defiance of the fact that that would be impossible to sing and he doesn't even try? also like to imagine the conversation when richey+nicky heard how he brutalizes the pronunciation of la tristesse durera. "fuck it you pricks, it goes with the fuckin tune, that's how it's fuckin staying"

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 June 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I want 'Life Becoming A Landslide' to win this now - just (belatedly) realised it's the best thing they did.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 24 June 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I like that one but the chunk production of that whole record is a huge distraction.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Friday, 24 June 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

*chunky

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Friday, 24 June 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

love that album now.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 24 June 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

landslide is an extreme example of the manics combining corny and profound. i loved it so much but as i have gotten older and crabbier some of the triter lyrics and elements like the fucking horrible strings constantly seem to get in my way of enjoying the song. over the few revisions i did it slipped from my top ten to off the list. it seemed to get worse with every listen.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 June 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

overthinking! my "revisions" consisted of reading lyrics pages and replaying some songs i last listened to ten years ago, maybe all the way through if they got lucky. this was an adolescent poll for me (adolesence reaching into my mid 20s to be fair).

btw is the countdown continuing over the weekend? if so i will be absent for most of it ;_;

ledge, Friday, 24 June 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

nah i'm gonna be busy so will do another 15 on monday

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Friday, 24 June 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Pauvre petit Sean can't catch a break in that photo.

Morley Timmons, Friday, 24 June 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

here we go then

35. Enola/Alone (from Everything Must Go) [3 votes, 81 points, 1996] tied with 34 & 33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgVyQRqTZu4

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link

34. Mausoleum (from The Holy Bible) [3 votes, 81 points, 1994] tied with 35 & 33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4zsRbiHY4

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry I didn't have time to vote in this. Enjoying reading the results nonetheless. My number one would have been Faster, without a shadow of a doubt. Probably the best rock song of the 1990s.

Actual LOL Tolhurst (Doran), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Had to remind myself which one Mausoleum is. It's one of the ones on The Holy Bible which works least well I think (only faint criticism!). The gear change into the 'chorus' is either too prominent or not prominent enough, I can't decide - the former because the two parts don't mesh all that well, the latter because there's no *huge* dynamic shift, so it makes the song more of a kind of featureless hum. Maybe one time where the Spartan arrangement let's them down a little?

Thinking about the poll over the weekend, Ifwhiteamerica... is really scandalously low, what a terrific track. I can hardly talk though, I didn't note for it myself.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

lets, dammit - autocorrect's fault, not mine

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

loved Enola/Alone when I was younger, now the chorus bugs me.

love Mausoleum still, esp the ending.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

33. There By The Grace Of God (from Forever Delayed) [3 votes, 81 points, 2002] tied with 34 & 35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHuBrh2B5nc

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link

and one of my favourites so i'm glad to see it up highish

32. Dead Trees and Traffic Islands (b-side to A Design For Life) [4 votes, 82 points, 1996] tied with 31 & 30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSN3nw6Ki_8

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

oooh that's a good b-side. never really 'got' TBTGOG though.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 27 June 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I did not know 'Dead Trees' before, but it's marvellous.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

31. Jackie Collins Existential Question Time (from Journal For Plague Lovers) [5 votes, 82 points, 2009] tied with 32 & 30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpSzPL-Qu20

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

30. Theme from M.A.S.H. (Suicide Is Painless) (stand-alone single) [4 votes, 82 points, 1992] tied with 31 & 32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11f8Oc25AI

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes! Closest they got to their stated early aspirations imo. I wish they'd really gone for it, promotion-wise - it could've been a startling #1 in 1992.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

29. The Everlasting (from This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours) [4 votes, 83 points, 1998]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeU_qC5tBOE

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

28. Peeled Apples (from Journal For Plague Lovers) [4 votes, 85 points, 2009]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4mL_YAJG_c

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

The Everlasting is one of the songs that the band themselves famously hate. Surprised it's this high.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

really shoulda voted for Suicide is Painless, they own that song AFAIC

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought I liked it 'til I relistened for this poll, but I couldn't even get through it. It's not bad, it's just boring.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I always loved Suicide is Painless - I think that was the first thing I ever heard by them - must've been about 11? The Everlasting = Mum's favourite.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

xp that was

Their 'Suicide Is Painless' is the definitive version imo. Was extremely disappointed when I heard the original.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" shows up - very similar in tone and execution to MASH and definitely one of their most poignant moments since it was their first release after Richey's disappearance.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Suicide is Painless somewhat let down by the structure - very short verse/very short chorus, repeat * infinity. Also I do not endorse the message, somewhat glad it wasn't a startling #1.

ledge, Monday, 27 June 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

they certainly had a fixation on morbidity. I'm surprised the hordes of emo kids circa 2006 didn't latch onto early Manics in a big way.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

somehow I hadn't heard their version of "Raindrops..." yet. It's really lovely. They ought to have done a whole "American Standards" record back then, imagine the backlash!

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha yes, their contrarian antennae failing them there

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

27. She Is Suffering (from The Holy Bible) [4 votes, 91 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYNwr58V1Pg

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

26. Prologue To History (b-side to If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next) [5 votes, 92 points, 1998]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Q3SR9x5W0

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Prologue to History is my favourite Manics B-side. Better than most of TIMT - and a much stronger look at their own history than The Everlasting - but would never have worked on that album.

I do not endorse the message

"My name is ledge and I do not endorse this message."

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

"I don't WAN-na beee/A prologue to his-to-ryyyy"

A b-side I actually know!

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Monday, 27 June 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

That is the best new-to-me track I've heard so far.

ledge, Monday, 27 June 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

There was a pretty great four-song set by them on a spinoff of C4 show Naked City circa 1994. 'She Is Suffering' was one of the four iirc. I had it taped and watched repeatedly - terrific performance and nice touches like Richey having to attend to technical issues on his guitar whenever James decided to sling his own aside for a verse.

It was called 'Butt Naked', I remember now, and disfigured by a horrible cartoon of a descending arse whenever the credits showed. Why oh why have such crap graphics? It can't've been funny ever.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

25. Slash & Burn (from Generation Terrorists) [5 votes, 99 points, 1992]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8a1WEjLqUw

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

24. No Surface All Feeling (from Everything Must Go) [4 votes, 109 points, 1996]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ldINetLTaA

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Yup, love No Surface, All Feeling. There's a long line of resignation and passivity running from, where, maybe This Is Yesterday onwards, which I assume is Wire's work because it gets expanded amplified with diminishing returns once Richey bows out. No Surface All Feeling's really good with it though, it's touching and quite tender.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that was my #9. verse is over passive maybe but the chorus + guitar line make it. then they rock out yeeeaaaaahhh.

ledge, Monday, 27 June 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay last ones for today. Not sure if i'll be continuing tomorrow as have to attend a funeral but we'll see...

23. P.C.P. (from The Holy Bible) [6 votes, 110 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN5AxvjTJhQ

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link


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