Alice Cooper: Classic or Dud??

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Do you have a copy of that book?

yes, my second one, actually...bought my first copy back when it came out, loaned it to a jr. high school friend and never saw it again...several years ago I found another copy rummaging through a thrift shop in upstate NY...I sure hope he plays a club gig in Boston this summer...I'm fully prepared to blows $200 on that box set this week when it comes out...

also, relative to that book, which details the Muscle of Love tour, it is absolutely AMAZING that tours of that magnitude could be organized and executed without cell phones and ATMs!

henry s, Monday, 27 June 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

CORRECTION/CLARIFICATION:

I intend to "blow" $200, and when I say that "I sure hope he plays a club gig in Boston this summer", I am referring to the Coop, not my jr. high school friend who never gave me the book back...

henry s, Monday, 27 June 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

that book's hard to find. ive always wanted to read it.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 27 June 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

Alice Cooper on latest Top Gear was hilares, driving a Kia around and referring to the gearbox as 'dyslexic'

remy bean, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

He really pisses me off on his radio show, still love the 70s records and would see him at a club date, but I doubt he's coming to Mid-Missouri

Trip Maker, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

What does he do on his radio show that pisses you off?

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 27 June 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

my guess:

tells kids to stay in school, votes republican, complains about Marilyn Manson

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

He votes republican on his show?

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

the magic of radio

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

He acts like he invented rock and roll and assumes his audience has zero knowledge of music and/or the music industry.

Full disclosure: I host a radio program on a community station so I just find his smug self-satisfaction sort of insulting.

Trip Maker, Monday, 27 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

He does drop a lot of right wing BS, too.

Trip Maker, Monday, 27 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Unfortunate. Never heard his show. He always seemed like a relatively decent guy to me.

I don't generally sweat the political stuff.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

Syndicated all over the country
http://nightswithalicecooper.com/

Trip Maker, Monday, 27 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

He always seemed like a relatively decent guy to me.

seriously have no idea what you would base this on, everything I know about him = colossal asshole.

his 70s stuff is awesome obvy

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

I read his book on golf (laugh all you want). He came across as a decent guy. For me he doesnt come across as an asshole, like say Lars Ulrich or Ted Nugent or even Bruce Dickinson do.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

I wouldn't put him quite in that league (altho I dunno what there is to hate about Dickinson?)

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

He seems like a dick. Maybe he can come off the list. Ulrich and Nugent are enough to get the point across.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

Codger, i mean, classic rock is full of tomfool old white guys on the far right. They're the ones who never got invited to play Jackson Browne festivals or No More Nukes. Skunk Baxter was another notorious guitarist to the far right of things. Someone in Montrose, don't remember if it was RM himself or Sammy Hagar, was a gold bug fiat money conspiracy theory kook all wound up
about the US going off the gold standard in 1971.

Gorge, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

I don't understand how he could have created this amazing freak persona in the early 1970s and then everything he's said or done since then has been to disown that persona, trying to reassure us all that he's just a regular beer-drinking, golf-playing, prude, Bee Gees-enjoying, conservative family man. It smacks of some kind of guilt complex.

Josefa, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link

I caught part of Alice's radio show not long ago, and he went on this rant about how rock 'n' roll allows you to sing about whatever you want. OK, sure, but he underscored it by saying, "Don't listen to all those people who say, [adopts whiny voice] 'Let's write songs about flowers!'" All I could think was: who exactly is saying that, Alice?

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

Bobby Vinton?

Josefa, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously, fucking Vinton has a stranglehold on popular culture right now.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

everything he's said or done since then has been to disown that persona, trying to reassure us all that he's just a regular beer-drinking, golf-playing, prude

Well, I got the impression back then that he just wanted to be golf pals in Palm Springs with Bob Hope. And be on Hollywood Squares with Paul Lynde, Joanne Worley and Arte Johnson.

And he was a serious white knuckle alcholic, for a time using it as a de facto endorsement of Budweiser. There were lots of promo photos of him always with Budweiser and even one notably pic of him carrying an entire case as he walked across the runway getting off some tour plane.

Billion Dollar Baby, which I read, did communicate the image that behind the stage shtick, Vince and his bandmates were pretty square middle American guys. There wasn't any revolution on their minds. But Michael
Bruce and ol' AC together could write some catchy hard rock tunes Bob Ezrin was able to
develop on three and a half LPs, the debut on Warners, Killer, Billion Dollar Babies and a bit of Muscle of Love. Plus one classic single, "School's Out" on an album that was crap compared to the others.

The other claim to single fame is "I'm Eighteen." The first two Ezrin-produced albums are
about perfect.

Gorge, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 05:50 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

would somebody cop this and tell me if it's any good or exactly what you might expect

http://www.metalmachine.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/AliceCooperW2MNFinalCover.jpg

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Cooper’s widely anticipated new album, Welcome 2 My Nightmare, will be released September 13, 2011, by Universal Music Enterprises. Recorded with longtime collaborator Bob Ezrin, who produced the original multi-platinum Welcome To My Nightmare album in 1975, the album picks up right where they left off, with Alice trapped in his own warped mind.

The original release is an all-time rock classic that spawned a worldwide theatrical tour and pioneering U.S. TV special, and certified Alice Cooper as a visionary trailblazer whose influence persists today in rock, metal, pop, punk, theatre, television, film and much more.

More than 35 years later, Alice and Ezrin have resurrected the horror and humor for a new generation.

“This is Alice’s nightmare 35 years later,” explains Alice, “Bob and I created this character and we know how to write for him. I play the part but we’re not writing for me, we’re writing for Alice. We kept the first Nightmare album very personal to us, on this one we found more humor and we were more open. This was our world and we want to present it to the fans. The original album was my first solo album after all those huge hit records with the original band and now that nightmare is exposed, this one can be a little bit more open. The music crosses all sorts of boundaries; we went where the lyrics took us.”

There is an array of collaborators on the new album, including original Alice Cooper members Denis Dunaway, Michael Bruce and Neal Smith reunited on 3 tracks; global pop superstar Ke$ha, who affectionately calls Alice “dad”; and legendary Alice and Lou Reed guitarist Steve Hunter, who is part of Alice’s current touring band and featured prominently on the first Nightmare album.
Musically, the album ranges far and wide, from trashing disco to garage punk, pop balladry to a rocking number, very much in the spirit of the Rolling Stones. And then there’s the ballad “Something To Remember Me By,” described by Alice as “the prettiest song we have ever released.”

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

*groans* the title of this album has a faint whiff of 'naff straight-to-video low budget sequel to Hollywood blockbuster' about it. Part of me is excited (especially at the prospect of the original Alice Cooper band members on there), but mostly I'll be going into this one with caution.

Turrican, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

especially at the prospect of the original Alice Cooper band members on there)

^my excitement at the original members is tempered by the inclusion of KeSha

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I can't deny I have similar feelings over that!

Turrican, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

There are some great, great tunes on here, that filthy rock 'n' roll stuff he hasn't done since the early-'70s (the first half rocks), but this album really suffers from the lack of shock rock/psychodrama. It might quote "Steven" in the overture at the beginning, but there's nothing that goes in a similar direction as that song. But it's still his best album since Trash.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

But it's still his best album since Trash.

ooh boy ;)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

sampling on iTunes now...first track opens with some vocoder/autotune action that sounded awful but then it opens out onto...something that sounds like a left-out ballad from the last Ozzy album

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

it's safe to say from just a few samples that whatever underlings engineered this for Bob Ezrin have no vision at all, and that Bob Ezrin straight just doesn't give a shit what a record sounds like any more

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Alice a couple weeks ago at a small community theater in the town i live in. He was fantastic. he had three guitarists, including Hunter. Nobody from the original band however. It was essentially a greatest hits show, some stuff I didnt expect to hear like "Halo of Flies".

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

"Halo Of Flies", to me, is the crowning achievement of the original Alice Cooper band, and it's probably the best track Alice Cooper was involved in overall. Amazing track.

Turrican, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

That song definitely rules.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i can't stop listening to this super extendo gravedigging version of "is it my body"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRHFIVJtqpc

pls post more awesome live alice cooper youtubes here

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

that screenshot is him stripping down from his silver hooded jumpsuit to a pink leotard and black tights

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

you know what's weird is i love "billion dollar babies" but have never bothered listening to any of his other albums. i probably should.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

this one is from the same session apparently -- he's still wearing the leotard, but now he has a red hood and a pitchfork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klbJQrguTV8&feature=related

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

bodies need rest
we all need our rest

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

here comes the cake!

henry s, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of which...
(3:45 onwards)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA3qo5L1eLE

asked Dermot O'Leary, but he couldn't help me either. They call me the (snoball), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

apparently detroit was full of snakes in 1986

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZmOpafga0&feature=related

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

Glad this thread was revived since I keep forgetting to do it ever since I got a fantastic Alice comp last Saturday.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

beheading a mannequin
(some good shots of pre-veneered teeth here, coincidentally)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWU7FxQIsoM

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

identity cris-es

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--0vdeoudq8&feature=related

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

bwaaaa was just gonna post the i love the dead video

arby's, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

the silver jumpsuits are killing me

where do i get five

arby's, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

xp - oops that was supposed to say crisis-es
but this is a good opportunity to note that monster dog was written and directed by claudio fragasso, the mad genius who brought us troll 2

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link


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