Manic Street Preachers Destructive Alienating Cultural and Despair Filled Tracks POLL RESULTS

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'ambiguous' in intent, I mean.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 27 June 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

mausoleum – i had this way up. love this song. the reason i didn't go (even) more heavily on THB tracks was because

they aren't quite the same as individual tracks versus pieces of that whole. i don't mean that they don't stand up

as individual songs, but the sharp darkness of individual tracks is somehow subsumed by the charcoal smear of the

whole, and maybe by the foreknowledge that i am listening to THB, whereas if i pull out intense humming or archives

or 4st 7 it's like, uhhh, well this is pretty fucking brutal eh? the singles are naturally the tracks that avoid this most obviously, but i always found mausoleum a timely release from the intensity. it is a banging rock tune with hilariously ott, schlocky lyrics. richie gets close to the line enough times throughout the record but on mausoleum they careen gleefully into cartoon. and that just makes me love it more. i am the opposite of whoever above (IK?) because i particularly like how the different parts are welded together, and each of the individual parts is great in its own right - the haunted house, telltale bass of the verse; upshift to the gradually sinking fast n shouty pre-chorus; goth metal powerchord chorus; unintentionally hilarious voice clip; awesome thundering finish to a dead stop.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

estimated percentage chance i was writing that in notepad so it wasn't too obvious i was ilxing at work?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

well this is pretty fucking brutal eh?

otm. You wouldn't believe the scorn I drew on the metal poll for railroading it in their direction. THB is the heaviest thing I've heard that doesn't sound like it's actually being sung by a corpse.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

a recap of 50-21 would be awesome if someone has a little time on their hands

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"Mausoleum" would be my pick from THB, with "Faster" a close second. I'm sorry I didn't vote in this poll, though I'm not sure I would have voted for anything post THB.

Neil S, Monday, 27 June 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

so far...

50. Ocean Spray (from Know Your Enemy) [3 votes, 54 points, 2001]
49. My Little Empire (from This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours) [3 votes, 55 points, 1998]
48. Interiors (Song for Willem De Kooning) (from Everything Must Go) [2 votes, 56 points, 1996]
47. Spectators Of Suicide (from Generation Terrorists) [3 votes, 57 points, 1992]
46. Found That Soul (from Know Your Enemy) [4 votes, 58 points, 2001]
45. My Guernica (from Know Your Enemy) [3 votes, 60 points, 2001]
44. Epicentre (from Know Your Enemy) [2 votes, 1 first place, 62 points, 2001]
43. Archives Of Pain (from The Holy Bible) [3 votes, 64 points, 1994]
42. So Why So Sad (from Know Your Enemy) [2 votes, 1 first place, 65 points, 2001]
41. Small Black Flowers That Grow In The Sky (from Everything Must Go) [4 votes, 67 points, 1996]
40. Sepia (b-side to Kevin Carter) [3 votes, 68 points, 1996]
39. ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayit'sworldwouldfallapart (from The Holy Bible) [4 votes, 70 points, 1994] (tied with 37 & 38)
38. Revol (from The Holy Bible) [3 votes, 70 points, 1994] (tied with 37 & 39)
37. Your Love Alone Is Not Enough (from Send Away The Tigers) [3 votes, 1 first place, 70 points, 2007] (tied with 38 & 39)
36. Too Cold Here (b-side to Revol) [3 votes, 71 points, 1994]
35. Enola/Alone (from Everything Must Go) [3 votes, 81 points, 1996] tied with 34 & 33
34. Mausoleum (from The Holy Bible) [3 votes, 81 points, 1994] tied with 35 & 33
33. There By The Grace Of God (from Forever Delayed) [3 votes, 81 points, 2002] tied with 34 & 35
32. Dead Trees and Traffic Islands (b-side to A Design For Life) [4 votes, 82 points, 1996] tied with 31 & 30
31. Jackie Collins Existential Question Time (from Journal For Plague Lovers) [5 votes, 82 points, 2009] tied with 32 & 30
30. Theme from M.A.S.H. (Suicide Is Painless) (stand-alone single) [4 votes, 82 points, 1992] tied with 31 & 32
29. The Everlasting (from This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours) [4 votes, 83 points, 1998]
28. Peeled Apples (from Journal For Plague Lovers) [4 votes, 85 points, 2009]
27. She Is Suffering (from The Holy Bible) [4 votes, 91 points, 1994]
26. Prologue To History (b-side to If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next) [5 votes, 92 points, 1998]
25. Slash & Burn (from Generation Terrorists) [5 votes, 99 points, 1992]
24. No Surface All Feeling (from Everything Must Go) [4 votes, 109 points, 1996]
23. P.C.P. (from The Holy Bible) [6 votes, 110 points, 1994]
22. Elvis Impersonator: Blackpool Pier (from Everything Must Go) [5 votes, 111 points, 1996]
21. Roses In The Hospital (from Gold Against The Soul) [6 votes, 118 points, 1993]

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 27 June 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

cool, thx. long wait for a GATS track. so i have 14 tracks left for the last 20 spots. would guess i am due 4-5 disappointments, hopefully not more than that.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 June 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

still have 16 left - I expect 8 of them will place.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, Prologue To History is fantastic!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I have 14 left. I expect them all to place tbh, except Further Away and possibly Repeat.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope design for life doesnt win, but I think it will. Hopefully we will find out tonight!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

nah it's either Motorcycle Emptiness or - possibly - Yes.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'm saying Faster. I'd most like it to be Yes I think.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

it really is fucking perfect, esp. the US mix.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

okay let's do 10 this evening, and then final top ten tomorrow

20. Life Becoming A Landslide (from Gold Against The Soul) [6 votes, 120 points, 1993]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWeL1bXPjdc

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

19. Everything Must Go (from Everything Must Go) [6 votes, 121 points, 1996]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9kz10lAMFY

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

I don't normally do this, but Life Becoming A Landslide is far

TOO LOW

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

18. Further Away (from Everything Must Go) [6 votes, 134 points, 1996]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_UHNsooeJw

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

17. Little Baby Nothing (from Generation Terrorists) [6 votes, 144 points, 1992]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM3N54avEQc

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Love Further Away, but I didn't think anyone else would!

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

it's edging towards best track on the album for me

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Everything Must Go" still strikes me as an incredibly ballsy comeback statement both sonically and lyrically, even if "A Design for Life" was the flagship tune.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

no more bsides or early singles to come then?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

I'd bank on "Stay Beautiful" making it, and that other one.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

for a lot of ppl the ballsy statement of EMG was "sorry dudes, we're not gonna be making any music you like anymore"

i tried to talk myself into voting for little baby nothing out of some kind of sentimentality but it hasn't held up at all

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

16. If You Tolerate This, Your Children Will Be Next (from This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours) [7 votes, 150 points, 1998]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

15. Of Walking Abortion (from The Holy Bible) [7 votes, 151 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJPnYASvBk

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

i fell like tolerate and abortion being practically identically regarded maybe indicates we have a healthy balance across the spectrum on manics appreciation. good job team.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

I thought I was the only one who liked Further Away!
Lifeblood- not happening :/

Morley Timmons, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

14. Stay Beautiful (from Generation Terrorists) [6 votes, 152 points, 1992]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorwh5MMIao

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

oh sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM_oov3dU6A

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

stay beautiful is too low

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

13. Die in the Summertime (from The Holy Bible) [7 votes, 154 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPJtsI74xow

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, stay beautiful is too low, and was too low on my ballot too iirc, so i am part of the problem. i know i had a rationale for it at the time but dammit i shoulda had that top 5. all we love is lonely wreckage. lol at swift slip

die in the summertime is good but not a particular highlight for me.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

I put Stay Beautiful very high on a whim really, 'cos I barely know it. I've probably only heard it maybe half-a-dozen times somehow, either that or its hook is a lot less hooky than I always think. Anyway I'd thought it might win the whole thing, i associate it with the whole Freaky Trigger/populist aesthetic for some half-understood reason.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

IK on vibes

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

12. Motown Junk (stand-alone single) [7 votes, 156 points, 1991]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axAJ0RtBd7I

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

last one for tonight

11. You Love Us (from Generation Terrorists) [7 votes, 159 points, 1992]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKXBJ2LZKo

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Surprised those two aren't Top 10. Faster for the win.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

never really got the big deal wrt "You Love Us"

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, those are two big ones out the way. The top ten's not at all obvious to me.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

much prefer the heavenly version of 'you love us.'

'faster' would be a good no. 1.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

ok expected them to be top 5. i hope its not just going to be the big hit singles off emg in the top 10

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Trying to think what'll definitely place, and there's going to be a good few missing out: at least half of Masses vs Classes, Australia, La Tristesse, Sleepflower, Repeat, Black Dog, Nixon won't make it.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

Sleepflower and Repeat better make it

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

'Faster' must win - it was the first song they ever did that made me actually take them seriously and when 'The Holy Bible' came out I must've listened to it twice a day or more for about three months. It was the oddly comforting soundtrack to the second half of my first acid trip.

'The Holy Bible' sounds pretty middling on relistening now but 'Faster' still sends tingles.

Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

So… Faster, Design, Tristesse, Kevin Carter, Motorcycle, Yes, Masses, This Is Yesterday, Repeat, From Despair to Where? I always forget something when I guess poll top 10s.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

If 4st 7lbs also places, that would be every track from The Holy Bible bar Intense Humming of Evil, which even the Manics admit is a bit hard to take. Apparently they played it live just once, and people were running away.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

ugh kevin carter. almost as bad as the everlasting

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link


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