Alice Cooper: Classic or Dud??

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everything he's said or done since then has been to disown that persona, trying to reassure us all that he's just a regular beer-drinking, golf-playing, prude

Well, I got the impression back then that he just wanted to be golf pals in Palm Springs with Bob Hope. And be on Hollywood Squares with Paul Lynde, Joanne Worley and Arte Johnson.

And he was a serious white knuckle alcholic, for a time using it as a de facto endorsement of Budweiser. There were lots of promo photos of him always with Budweiser and even one notably pic of him carrying an entire case as he walked across the runway getting off some tour plane.

Billion Dollar Baby, which I read, did communicate the image that behind the stage shtick, Vince and his bandmates were pretty square middle American guys. There wasn't any revolution on their minds. But Michael
Bruce and ol' AC together could write some catchy hard rock tunes Bob Ezrin was able to
develop on three and a half LPs, the debut on Warners, Killer, Billion Dollar Babies and a bit of Muscle of Love. Plus one classic single, "School's Out" on an album that was crap compared to the others.

The other claim to single fame is "I'm Eighteen." The first two Ezrin-produced albums are
about perfect.

Gorge, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 05:50 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

would somebody cop this and tell me if it's any good or exactly what you might expect

http://www.metalmachine.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/AliceCooperW2MNFinalCover.jpg

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Cooper’s widely anticipated new album, Welcome 2 My Nightmare, will be released September 13, 2011, by Universal Music Enterprises. Recorded with longtime collaborator Bob Ezrin, who produced the original multi-platinum Welcome To My Nightmare album in 1975, the album picks up right where they left off, with Alice trapped in his own warped mind.

The original release is an all-time rock classic that spawned a worldwide theatrical tour and pioneering U.S. TV special, and certified Alice Cooper as a visionary trailblazer whose influence persists today in rock, metal, pop, punk, theatre, television, film and much more.

More than 35 years later, Alice and Ezrin have resurrected the horror and humor for a new generation.

“This is Alice’s nightmare 35 years later,” explains Alice, “Bob and I created this character and we know how to write for him. I play the part but we’re not writing for me, we’re writing for Alice. We kept the first Nightmare album very personal to us, on this one we found more humor and we were more open. This was our world and we want to present it to the fans. The original album was my first solo album after all those huge hit records with the original band and now that nightmare is exposed, this one can be a little bit more open. The music crosses all sorts of boundaries; we went where the lyrics took us.”

There is an array of collaborators on the new album, including original Alice Cooper members Denis Dunaway, Michael Bruce and Neal Smith reunited on 3 tracks; global pop superstar Ke$ha, who affectionately calls Alice “dad”; and legendary Alice and Lou Reed guitarist Steve Hunter, who is part of Alice’s current touring band and featured prominently on the first Nightmare album.
Musically, the album ranges far and wide, from trashing disco to garage punk, pop balladry to a rocking number, very much in the spirit of the Rolling Stones. And then there’s the ballad “Something To Remember Me By,” described by Alice as “the prettiest song we have ever released.”

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

*groans* the title of this album has a faint whiff of 'naff straight-to-video low budget sequel to Hollywood blockbuster' about it. Part of me is excited (especially at the prospect of the original Alice Cooper band members on there), but mostly I'll be going into this one with caution.

Turrican, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

especially at the prospect of the original Alice Cooper band members on there)

^my excitement at the original members is tempered by the inclusion of KeSha

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I can't deny I have similar feelings over that!

Turrican, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

There are some great, great tunes on here, that filthy rock 'n' roll stuff he hasn't done since the early-'70s (the first half rocks), but this album really suffers from the lack of shock rock/psychodrama. It might quote "Steven" in the overture at the beginning, but there's nothing that goes in a similar direction as that song. But it's still his best album since Trash.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

But it's still his best album since Trash.

ooh boy ;)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

sampling on iTunes now...first track opens with some vocoder/autotune action that sounded awful but then it opens out onto...something that sounds like a left-out ballad from the last Ozzy album

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

it's safe to say from just a few samples that whatever underlings engineered this for Bob Ezrin have no vision at all, and that Bob Ezrin straight just doesn't give a shit what a record sounds like any more

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Alice a couple weeks ago at a small community theater in the town i live in. He was fantastic. he had three guitarists, including Hunter. Nobody from the original band however. It was essentially a greatest hits show, some stuff I didnt expect to hear like "Halo of Flies".

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

"Halo Of Flies", to me, is the crowning achievement of the original Alice Cooper band, and it's probably the best track Alice Cooper was involved in overall. Amazing track.

Turrican, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

That song definitely rules.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i can't stop listening to this super extendo gravedigging version of "is it my body"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRHFIVJtqpc

pls post more awesome live alice cooper youtubes here

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

that screenshot is him stripping down from his silver hooded jumpsuit to a pink leotard and black tights

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

you know what's weird is i love "billion dollar babies" but have never bothered listening to any of his other albums. i probably should.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

this one is from the same session apparently -- he's still wearing the leotard, but now he has a red hood and a pitchfork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klbJQrguTV8&feature=related

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

bodies need rest
we all need our rest

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

here comes the cake!

henry s, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of which...
(3:45 onwards)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA3qo5L1eLE

asked Dermot O'Leary, but he couldn't help me either. They call me the (snoball), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

apparently detroit was full of snakes in 1986

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZmOpafga0&feature=related

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

Glad this thread was revived since I keep forgetting to do it ever since I got a fantastic Alice comp last Saturday.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

beheading a mannequin
(some good shots of pre-veneered teeth here, coincidentally)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWU7FxQIsoM

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

identity cris-es

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--0vdeoudq8&feature=related

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

bwaaaa was just gonna post the i love the dead video

arby's, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

the silver jumpsuits are killing me

where do i get five

arby's, Friday, 11 November 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

xp - oops that was supposed to say crisis-es
but this is a good opportunity to note that monster dog was written and directed by claudio fragasso, the mad genius who brought us troll 2

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

i had a leotard/tights combo like that when i took ballet in gradeschool

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

it was the required uniform!

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

man, "Identity Crises" sounds like confused early eighties New Pop.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

this one is great too
like if the lawrence welk show was for awesome people instead of old people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaOV0XkXwvM&feature=related

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Friday, 11 November 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

ok these are so sick. love the guitar playing/sounds on these too.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 11 November 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

What are those two things.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 11 November 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

uh just for clarification my "these" was referring to the youtube videos, not to arby's things which i don't know about

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 11 November 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

The silver jump suits were made by Cyndi Smith, Neal's sister and Dennis Dunaway's wife.

henry s, Friday, 11 November 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

A skilled designer, for sure!!

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

Alice Cooper is hosting Never Mind The Buzzcocks on BBC2 tonight at 10PM.

asked Dermot O'Leary, but he couldn't help me either. They call me the (snoball), Monday, 14 November 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link

"What are those two things"

Following the link back, looks like a couple of boot DVDs, from a company specialising in such things:

http://midnighttosix.typepad.com/midnight_to_six_rare_vide/2010/03/alice-cooper-caught-in-a-dream-19691972.html

http://midnighttosix.typepad.com/midnight_to_six_rare_vide/2010/03/alice-cooper-is-it-my-body-19691972-volume-2.html

Wandering Boy Poet, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

Have there been any plans to release remastered editions of the early material? I have Billion Dollar Babies as a deluxe 2cd but haven't come across the earlier 70s lps remastered since the late 80s/early 90s. Or at least not legit world catalogue. Have Flacs of some Japanese remasters but would love a decent cd of Love It To Death & Killer, possibly School's Out.
I know the first 2 of those are classic anyway.
I think the Straight lps were remastered a few years ago, possibly this side of the millenium.

Not been sure when he fell off/jumped the shark. But was pleasantly surprised by Killer which I listened to earlier. had mainly been looking out for a decent version of Love It To Death up til then.

Stevolende, Sunday, 25 March 2012 09:27 (twelve years ago) link

I'd say welcome to my nightmare is the last you really need. a few decent singles after that but not many.

Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 25 March 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

I really like Flush The Fashion, but I've never listened to anything from in between Welcome To My Nightmare and that one. Or anything after it really apart from Trash which was massive when I was at school.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 25 March 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

xpost OTM

henry s, Monday, 26 March 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjrgZPhuL9o

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 27 January 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

Now I'm seriously torn as to whether I should fall asleep to Love It To Death or Wish You Were Here tonight... gah!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 27 January 2013 00:42 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

awesome

go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

I may not see a better thing all week!

henry s, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

has anyone read "billion dollar baby," the bob greene book? it appears to be out of print

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 2 August 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link


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