Manic Street Preachers Destructive Alienating Cultural and Despair Filled Tracks POLL RESULTS

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IK on vibes

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

12. Motown Junk (stand-alone single) [7 votes, 156 points, 1991]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axAJ0RtBd7I

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

last one for tonight

11. You Love Us (from Generation Terrorists) [7 votes, 159 points, 1992]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKXBJ2LZKo

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Surprised those two aren't Top 10. Faster for the win.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

never really got the big deal wrt "You Love Us"

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, those are two big ones out the way. The top ten's not at all obvious to me.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

much prefer the heavenly version of 'you love us.'

'faster' would be a good no. 1.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

ok expected them to be top 5. i hope its not just going to be the big hit singles off emg in the top 10

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Trying to think what'll definitely place, and there's going to be a good few missing out: at least half of Masses vs Classes, Australia, La Tristesse, Sleepflower, Repeat, Black Dog, Nixon won't make it.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

Sleepflower and Repeat better make it

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

'Faster' must win - it was the first song they ever did that made me actually take them seriously and when 'The Holy Bible' came out I must've listened to it twice a day or more for about three months. It was the oddly comforting soundtrack to the second half of my first acid trip.

'The Holy Bible' sounds pretty middling on relistening now but 'Faster' still sends tingles.

Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

So… Faster, Design, Tristesse, Kevin Carter, Motorcycle, Yes, Masses, This Is Yesterday, Repeat, From Despair to Where? I always forget something when I guess poll top 10s.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

If 4st 7lbs also places, that would be every track from The Holy Bible bar Intense Humming of Evil, which even the Manics admit is a bit hard to take. Apparently they played it live just once, and people were running away.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

ugh kevin carter. almost as bad as the everlasting

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

You crazy. One of Richey's best lyrics, punk-funk verses and a Sean trumpet solo. Tense and elegaic at the same time.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

I thought 4st 7lbs had placed already, but no. It's a cert.

My guess for the top ten (in order): Faster, Motorcycle, Design, Yes, Despair, Yesterday, Carter, Sleepflower, Masses, Repeat. No Tristesse, no Australia, no Intense Humming.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

So much of a cert that I forgot it in the same post! Scratch Masses, it's out - 4st 7 is in at #6.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

'kevin carter' is one of the real standouts on EMG (which i used to think was perfect but which now i find a little hard-going in the middle, every single song sounding like it's trying to be a tear-jerking anthem) for me, one of their most compact and perfect songs.

apparently james insisted that richey and nicky rewrite 'intense humming' as the first draft sounded too 'ambiguous' to him. definitely not a subject you want to have ppl debating what you mean by, a la 'pcp' or 'archives of evil.'

i feel pretty silly that i neglected to vote in this poll as relistening to all these albums over the past week reminded me that MSP are still, at least some of the time, my favorite band.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

maybe patrick bateman will be a suprise #1 with new art riot at #2

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for intense humming, it's an amazing piece of work.

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

♪♫ Ah-ha'm goin' down / to Suicide Alley ♪♫

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

i guess my top 10 would've been:

1. yes
2. faster
3. PCP
4. 4st 7lb
5. baby elian
6. sculpture of man
7. this is yesterday
8. no surface all feeling
9. motown junk
10. die in the summertime

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

'patrick bateman' is so terrible. if i'm bitter at the manics at all it's probably for getting 18-year-old me to read that shitty book.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

I felt obliged to spread my top 20 across a few albums to give other songs a chance, otherwise it would have been half Holy Bible.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

much prefer the heavenly version of 'you love us.'

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:35 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark

know nothing about this band, hadn't much liked what little i'd heard in the past, but i'm following this thread in an attempt to get an education. turns out they're pretty great! can't really get into the holy bible tracks, but "motown junk" is good and "stay beautiful" is damn near great. love the relative softness of "if you tolerate this..." and "further away" and "little baby nothing" (cultural alienation, boredom and despair).

plus yeah, the heavenly version is way better.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

two massive songs to finish on there. fucking mental that you love us isn't top 5. i thought it was an outside contender for #1. what has become of this world? almost enough to make you wanna jump off a bridge. i am assuming that all of the votes were lumped together and that clowns like me who specified the heavenly version didn't kill it with vote splitting? i had it second but i was sad i couldn't have two #1s. GT version sounds a little empty without the background nonsense and obv the iggy pop at the end of the heavenly version is awesome.

motown junk i didn't know about till after GT - maybe after GATS. i was given it on a mixtape and it blew my mind twice over, once because it is so fucking great, and twice because someone had scratched into the shelter at my bus stop "we live in urban hell we destroy rock n roll" and i had read that nearly every week for a year or more and all of a sudden jdb said it out of my sony sports walkman. we are well beyond new art riot territory i guess. bummer.

t looks like the number of #1s isn't being included with each entry - is that right? it would be cool to see that after.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

I still grin like a shitty 15-year-old every time I hear "I laughed when Lennon got shot!"

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

now i'm not a teenager, patrick bateman does indeed sound really terrible

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 07:41 (twelve years ago) link

musically its great. You finishing the countdown today?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link

yep

10. La Tristessa Durera (Scream to a Sigh) (from Gold Against The Soul) [8 votes, 170 points, 1993] tied with 9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJzwIFyZfck

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

Their morbid baggy record. Great Chemical Brothers remix of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX1WcbT-2h0

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

Was the lowest of the GATS tracks on my ballot, it occurs to me now I got things completely backwards.

ledge, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

9. Sleepflower (from Gold Against The Soul) [7 votes, 170 points, 1993] tied with 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGYnEtqU8u8

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:33 (twelve years ago) link

yes!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:34 (twelve years ago) link

^!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

Oh good. GATS always feels like the forgotten Manics album, but it has by far the catchiest riffs.

la tristessa demerera (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

very underrated album.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

EMG was the first Manics album not to have a naked torso on the cover. Was this a thing?

la tristessa demerera (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:39 (twelve years ago) link

Repeat over Tristessa was a bad call, but I'd like to point out that other than that my top ten has been 100% accurate so far.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:39 (twelve years ago) link

Sleepflower's brilliant, obviously. The best riff!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

8. From Despair to Where (from Gold Against The Soul) [9 votes, 189 points, 1993]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7JTXZMfDq0

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

Had I voted, "Tristesse" would've been my #1.

Keep shouting sir, we'll find you (DavidM), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:10 (twelve years ago) link

Listening now, I've just realised I don't like the strings on Despair. They should've had a big, overloaded guitar solo instead. It seems the kind of obvious move, actually, I wonder why they didn't?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

7. This Is Yesterday (from The Holy Bible) [7 votes, 1 first place, 202 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpcEsL-vs1w

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:30 (twelve years ago) link

love This Is Yesterday...

la tristessa demerera (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

That's my first-place. It's not the first top pick to show, is it?!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

three other tracks have had them so far

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

So they have. Three Two (relative) obscurities, too.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

This Is Yesterday is grand, except for the rather pedestrian drumming.

ledge, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

6. 4st 7lb (from The Holy Bible) [9 votes, 1 first place, 244 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy2ebaAGMU0

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link


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