http://player.vimeo.com/video/18951826 Prince doing A Love Bizarre live with Sharon Jones and The Dap Kings and Maceo Parker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!wish this would load already so i could watch it
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Outstanding. Note the teleprompter!!
I recently discovered the Electrifying Mojo's interview with Prince just after his 1986 (?) birthday gig in Detroit. Amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJZCoxZ5COY
― broom air, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think i've heard his voice outside of his movies--so cool
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 30 June 2011 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link
1983 rehearsal tape:
http://thediscography.tumblr.com/post/7071635816/haruenishikawa-d-m-s-r-rehearsal-including
― geeta, Thursday, 30 June 2011 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
that Mojo interview's great.
this is crazy under-rated innithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heJ-FxhU0h0
― piscesx, Friday, 1 July 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
saw prince last night for the first time. one of my top 5 shows of all time easy. and it was in a field at a crap festival. and it was godlike. amazing setlist plus Sly & Family Stone medley with Larry Graham. fuuuuuck.
Let's Go Crazy/Delirious, 1999, Little Red Corvette, Nothing Compares 2 U, Take Me With U, Raspberry Beret, Cream, Cool, Don't Stop Til You Get Enough, Let's Work, U Got The Look, Purple Rain, Kiss, Controversy/Housequake, Play That Funky Music, Dance To The Music/I Want To Take You Higher/Everyday People/Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin), Come Together, Dance (Disco Heat), If I Was Your Girlfriend, Baby I'm A Star
― I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 July 2011 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^THAT is sort of the set list I wish I had seen? Much as I loved all the insane stuff he did. Baby I'm a Star and U Got the Look and If I Was Your Girlfriend = pure gold.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 7 July 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I was really worried he would do a cack new stuff set, but it was literally hit after hit and unbelievable
― I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 7 July 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
that's what he usually does
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 July 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
It's does seem an awful shame that because he hasn't released a decent record in over 20 years, I have an awfully hard time trying to convince people of his genius...fair enough they may never of liked him in the first place but you mention his name and it's either a blank stare or 'yeah, Sexy MF was good'...er no...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
What world do you live in? Pretty much everyone I know loves this guy!
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
sonnyboy, find new friends
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxxxpost SO many underrated james on "Graffiti Bridge:" Joy In Repetition, Elephants, We Can Funk, Thieves in the Temple, Tick Tick Bang... if that record was just the Prince songs it would be in my top 5 for sure.
― Davey D, Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
"Joy in Repetition" is so swirly and weird.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 July 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i can sing every word of joy in repetition and occasionally do when i'm waiting for trainsGraffiti Bridge is badly underrated yes. It james out.
― brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 July 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
xpost: was gonna say "sonnyboy if you don't think chaos and disorder, 3121, the gold experience or emancipation are *decent* then i dunno about your prince fandom"...is that harsh?
― Marquis de Sade (outdoor_miner), Friday, 8 July 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Gold Experience and Emancipation no doubt3121 ehChaos and Disorder has like two james and that's it.
― brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 July 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Here I go pushing 20Ten again...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHWoK6P9XoM
― Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 8 July 2011 07:53 (thirteen years ago) link
That's kinda fun.
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Friday, 8 July 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Everyone loves his guy...how many of them own 'TGE', 'Come' or anything after the Love Symbol album? There's a shitload of people who don't have anything past Diamonds and it's basically the Kid's fault.
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 9 July 2011 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link
It's does seem an awful shame that because he hasn't released a decent record in over 20 years― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:29 PM Bookmark
I stopped reading here. sorry, Emancipation, Musicology, and 3121 are all good to great....
― estimate the percent chance that i break my foot off in your ass (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 July 2011 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
also I like the Symbol album and Come
― estimate the percent chance that i break my foot off in your ass (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 July 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I currently don't own anything of Prince's past The Gold Album, and even then Diamonds and Pearls is the last album of his featuring anything I want to hear. It's just too much mediocrity to take/sift through. Granted, each Prince album has always had a track or two I've liked, even "The Rainbow Children," but I'd be lying if I gave a shit about his sort of gormless genius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 July 2011 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link
thread why u brake heart ;_;
― estimate the percent chance that i break my foot off in your ass (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 July 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link
^Obv. live is a different matter. I've seen the dude in several different live contexts, from clubs to arenas, and he's never been less than captivating.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 July 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, you are correct: nothing after Emancipation is essential.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 July 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yea I would agree that he hasn't made a CLASSIC in the last 20 years, but sonnyboy acting like he hasn't even achieved mediocrity in the last 20 years = o_O
― estimate the percent chance that i break my foot off in your ass (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 July 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
There was a Prince vs Bowie thread a few years ago and I was more or less aghast that anyone could seriously pick Prince over Bowie. I only vaguely remember the "points" I was trying to make and I can't be bothered to find the thread, but anyhow, something clicked over the past few years and now I think I finally "get" Prince (ILM has certainly helped). I say that even as someone who was a Prince fan during the 80's. It's amazing that you can hear music one way for 20 years and then suddenly a light turns on and you hear things completely differently. This is also a big reason why I could never give up listening to music.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 9 July 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link
that's like me with the Rolling Stones, who I hated up until this year
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 9 July 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Live of course he still rules although the best bits for me are when he sits alone at the piano and plays his little heart out...that is pure unadulterated Prince genius...(but go back to 82/83 live boots...up there with J.B, P-Funk and EWF...arguably better)...but as someone who lived on Prince's music between 82-88 don't come here and tell me that there wasn't as major dropping off as has been witnessed in 50 years of pop music...Emancipation vs 1999??...please...sure you could scramble together a good comp of the best bits and it would still have lots of great stuff on there but the day he let Wendy and Lisa go was the day everything went tits up...yeah ill call it...if you tell me that Come or 3121 is up there with a Dirty Mind I'll respect you,shake your hand and tell you maybe we like Prince for different reasons...right that's enough from me I'm off to watch Graffiti Bridge...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Saturday, 9 July 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
ehm, nobody is saying Come or 3121 are up there with Dirty Mind, but Dirty Mind is a classic and one of his best efforts. You said he hadn't released anything "decent" in 20 years.
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 9 July 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Well I guess "decent" is subjective but for me Prince and decent should'nt even be in the same room. As far as his recorded output goes and im only talking bout his recorded output... sure they're are a few gems but the vast majority of it is'nt mediocre...its just plain bad...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Saturday, 9 July 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
As far as his recorded output goes and im only talking bout his recorded output... sure they're are a few gems but the vast majority of it is'nt mediocre...its just plain bad...
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 July 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I suppose if you include Around the World in a Day, Lovesexy and the enervated late nineties records the percentages informing the phrase "vast majority" would make sense.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 July 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I was only talking about the last 20 years...but I guess you could now say the majority...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Saturday, 9 July 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
what the fuck ever
alsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6yANUgWfSM
― brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 July 2011 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link
― Master of Treacle, Friday, July 8, 2011 10:26 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
Parts of Chaos and Disorder I liked (the title track) and parts of it I LOVED ("Dinner With Dolores"). But Emancipation was underwhelming. It wasn't that he was phoning it in necessarily, but most of what was on that record was What We Know Prince Can Do, rather than Prince Taking Chances.
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 10 July 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
today I was visiting with an old friend who got me into Prince years and years ago, and he went "which Prince albums do you not have?" -- he's been ripping and selling/giving away a lot of his CDs, so he gave me a whole stack of Prince: For You, Around The World In A Day, Lovesexy, Grafitti Bridge, Diamonds & Pearls, Come, The Gold Experience, and Emancipation. gonna enjoy poring over these while i work on my ballot for the Prince tracks poll.
― bro, die (some dude), Monday, 11 July 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, if you haven't really listened to those albums you are due for a fucking revelation my friend
― brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 July 2011 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i've heard some of them once or twice and have heard songs from others via said friend, but yeah i know there's a wealth of good shit i'm about to exposed to
― some dude, Monday, 11 July 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
the problem with Prince Taking Chances is that (apart from the rainbow children, or the truth) when hes tried to do that over the last 20-odd years, weve been ending up with some pretty awful music. basically, prince shouldnt touch new technology or try and work with new styles/sounds anymore cos it comes out badly. his best stuff of recent is more modest in its ambition.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 11 July 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
it is kind of funny to end a rant about how Prince has lost it by announcing that you're going to watch GRAFFITI BRIDGE
― DJP, Monday, 11 July 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
unexpectedly i was listening to SOTT at the weekend and thinking its maybe a bit overrated compared to say an album like 1999. maybe ive just developed a thing about rejecting 'classic' career peak albums but it seems a bit too 'careful'/muted. and im not sure the title track lyrically is much more than a social ills laundry list or that the cross isnt a bit cliche with its almost bono-ish imagery of pregnant mothers singing and flowers and ghettos on opposite sides etc. i should make a SOTT thread.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 11 July 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
there's one floating around where we ranked the tracks on SOTT
my opinion was that the singles are among the weakest tracks on the album aside from "If I Was Your Girlfriend", which is amazing
― DJP, Monday, 11 July 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
U Got the Crazy
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Monday, 11 July 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
SOTT feels like the start of 'modern' prince to me, but it's the best possible version where almost all the ideas work and the songs are really strong
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 11 July 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
But Emancipation was underwhelming. It wasn't that he was phoning it in necessarily, but most of what was on that record was What We Know Prince Can Do, rather than Prince Taking Chances.
Agreed. The problem is, What We Know Prince Can Do tends to be more listenable (ie, less appalling) these days than Prince Taking Chances.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 11 July 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i think sott is the end of classic prince, rather than the start of modern prince. graffiti bridge was basically the real end of that though, seeing as it had a lot of old 86-era songs from the sott/dream factory sessions on it.
1999 is just bolder though (im using this to compare as its his first big double album) - it feels like no one had done anything like that before. sott meanwhile seems more measured with some not exactly obvious (he makes them prince-ian) influences showing up but still clear here and there (the ending of play in the sunshine i still love but it now just makes me think of strawberry fields) whereas before prince seemed to have few obvious influences. could never take the place is still amazing and weirdly the guitar section now makes me think of weather report or return to forever but not nearly as flashy/bloated. very odd hearing an album youre so familiar with after leaving it alone for so long.
emancipation is good if you trim it to one cd. more than that and its weaknesses start to show. plus a lot of the songs on there were just too long.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 11 July 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
There is a lot more worth saving on Emancipation than just one CD's worth. Chunks of it are self-indulgent but most of it works.
― DJP, Monday, 11 July 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I think Emancipation apologists take things a bit too far, really. Especially when there's the perfectly serviceable Gold Experience right next to it in the discography.
― ephendophile (Eric H.), Monday, 11 July 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link