Rolling 2006 US Charts Thread

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HA! Rodney, you rule.

So what do folks think - Taylor Hicks #1 next week? HITS says he'll sell 150K singles based on first day, but I don't think that includes online... can he top Shakira with virtually no airplay? And wouldn't he have to sell at least 200K to do it?

(Then 2 weeks later there's McPhee's single, but I think she's more likely top 5 than #1.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting that they're seperating the releases of the two singles. Haven't they always released the winner/runner-up singles simultaneously?

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

BOOM! is the sound that Taylor Hicks makes as he BOOM!s straight in at #1. Everything else in the top 4 shifts down a place to make ROOM!

BOOM! is also the sound that is made by Gnarls Barkley and Rascal Flatts, as 'Crazy' and 'Life Is A Highway' make their first incursions upon the top 10 at 6 and 7 respectively.

Elsewhere: 'It Is Not The Case That There Is Any Other Man' climbs to #13 in its second week, as Pants! At The Disco make the top 20 for the first time at #19. Beyonce and Jay-Z debut at #44 with 'Deja Vu', E-40's 'U and Dat' and Brad Paisley's 'The World' say hello to the top 50 a bit below that.

Blimey, but Taylor Hicks is a slightly scary lookin' dude. Who bears a weird resemblance to Billboard's Chart Beat column man. Hmm.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 22 June 2006 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it wrong of me to be a bit confused by this?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 22 June 2006 09:36 (eighteen years ago) link

How come the Busta song is "I Love My B****" but the Buckcherry song (on the Mainstream Rock chart) is "Crazy Bitch"?

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Who bears a weird resemblance to Billboard's Chart Beat column man.

Huh.

http://www.chartattack.com/pics/2006/05/25-taylor.jpg http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/images/pic_interact_1.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Because Busta is a gentleman.

Incidentally, it's being changed to 'I Love My Chick' for its UK release, meaning if Buckcherry were to do the same thing, then people would think they were covering Charlotte Church. This would lead to a few surprised faces, possibly.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost:) Yikes.

So Outkast's "Mighty 'O'" loses its bullet and slides 30-32 on the R&B singles chart, not a good sign. But at least "Crazy" made it far higher than I expected.

Does Shakira return to #1 next week, or is an AI runner-up single coming out?

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I've only ever heard the "I Love My Chick" version on the radio here in the U.S. and that's what they used in the video too, I think that's just the universal single edit. but there's always been a weird double standard where hip hop records have to be sanitized of every even slightly offensive word, but rock radio can let lesser swears like "bitch" fly.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

How come the Busta song is "I Love My B****" but the Buckcherry song (on the Mainstream Rock chart) is "Crazy Bitch"?

'Cause that's how Busta's label (Aftermath, interestingly) wussed out and released it. The radio/video version is actually titled "I Love My Chick." Alternately known as "Big pussy song that blows, frankly, and wastes Kelis."

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Does Shakira return to #1 next week, or is an AI runner-up single coming out?

Katherine McPhee's single comes out next week, which means we have a one-week interim. (Though I still don't think hers is a sure-shot #1 - top 5, yes, but as for the top, we'll see.) Considering "Hips Don't Lie" lost its bullet - both airplay and, crucially, sales, are dropping - I think Furtado could slip in there, and since she's just gaining strength, then return in 3 weeks' time, post-McPhee. But watch for Christina and Beyoncé, whose contenders for "summer jam '06" could rise real fast. ("Deja Vu," in fact, is already up to #12 at R&B.)

So Outkast's "Mighty 'O'" loses its bullet and slides 30-32 on the R&B singles chart, not a good sign.
Remember, this is basically on R&B radio as a leak - I think it was just officially serviced a week or so ago. Once there's a video, and once there's a digital download, expect it to do better. (Assuming it's any good; I've not heard it yet.) We're still 2 months off from any attendant hysteria/press over the Idlewild movie/soundtrack, too.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Good points -- thanks.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

taylor hicks ye gods! this is where the joke is about to turn really unfunny. btw call me crazy/put me out of my misery but the one panic! at the disco i heard was actually, um, kinda awesome - was i hallucinating?

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Blount, I'll grant you that the Hicks single - which, yep, I bought - is weak and waaay overproduced, but I've got hopes that Clive is smart enough yet to give Taylor plenty of latitude in the studio (I mean, the guy can write and sing already).

As for the Panic! at the Disco single, if you heard "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" (the current video), you're not hallucinating; it's pretty damned great. If you heard "The Only Difference Between Suicide...," well, it's good but maybe not great.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"I Write Sins..." is great. Haven't heard "The Only Difference...". Their new single "But It's Better If You Do" (which I type out in full because I ran out of ellipses) is total shit.

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Not that I have a fucking clue when to call something emo or not, and I tend to dislike the bands I do call emo (but maybe that's because if I like them I don't call them emo), but emo probably is the teenpop-that-doesn't-call-itself-teenpop story of the year.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and "Mighty O" has good rapping, but doesn't work as a single at all. I'm not surprised its falling. (77-89 on the main chart.)

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

It seems to me that the second wave of emo bands don't suck nearly as atrociously as the first.

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

yes - 'i write sins' was what i heard (and saw, which helped obv): quite awesome. and if it counts as emo definitely my fave since token rites of spring shoutout, more than that new years in boston tune even. that about my emo quota there, though definitely agree (from what i can tell) this wave (the 'poseur' wave) seem to have alot more fun potential than dashboard dismemberments and whatever. emo's been a (sure as hell not the) teenpop story for awhile (waaay too fucking long for my tastes obv - it's like watching jordan play baseball), it's getting an upswing in ink now cuz the myspace tiein allows easy hack 'omg look at all these kids rocking and whining and masturbating! rock is back!', a smart freelancer finds a way to tie it into 'Internet Predators' (kelefa was sooo close - it's up to the sunday mag to finish the job!)(PROPOSAL - when hernandez' strip wraps get adrian tomine and joe sacco to team up on this immediately).

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 23 June 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"I Write Sins" is, without exaggeration, one of the worst songs I've ever heard. The video somehow manages to be of even lesser quality.

Not to say that I don't watch it whnever it's on TV, though.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

You're one weird kid, Dr. Bill.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 23 June 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I just listened to "I Write Sins" for the first time, and yeah it's pretty good!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys puzzle me. "I Write Songs" seems to care so little about disguising its awfulness, I'd almost think Panic were proud of it. Possibly they are. Maybe you have to see the video to truly appreciate this, but no, I think the song should be more than enough evidence.

"Pretty good"? Really? How do you get around the terribleness?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

PIZZICATO

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys puzzle me. "I Write Songs" seems to care so little about disguising its awfulnes

This is praise, of a sort.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I need not mention the expert use of a celeste.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

That fucking song, with the line "Haven't you people ever heard of,
closing the goddamn door", is some seriously annoying emo drivel.

CDDB (Dan Deluca), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a real bummer whenever that shit comes on the top 40 station

CDDB (Dan Deluca), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

dammit xpost!

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Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm with Bill, that song would be tolerable for the dynamics if the lyrics weren't so unabashedly awful, and they didn't choose the single worst line to repeat over and over.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

This is praise, of a sort.

Indeed it is--anything that confuses and fascinates me enough to make me always watch to the end must be doing something right (or something so wrong that the difference is fairly negligible). I call it the Carrot Top factor.

Still, it's these mildly positive reactions to IWSNT that I find so bizarre. Nobody says "Hey, I saw Gigli yesterday, pretty good movie." If for some reason someone was to find artistic merit in Gigli, they'd say something like "wow, Gigli, what a glorious trainwreck of a movie" or at least "wow, Gigli, I'm shocked to say, but I actually really liked that movie." These "Panic = pretty good" comments somehow manage to exist in a world where there is no unspoken base assumption that IWSNT is going to be awful. And that I can't comprehend.

Still, I suppoose it's better to listen to music for the first time with a sense of poise and rationality.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd chime in with a "haven't you people ever heard of Panic! At The Disco?"

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I really do think that the orchestral elements in the song are a factor for me, like they were in Blink-182's "Miss You." And it creates an interesting tension when, for example, the guitars surge in at the start of the first chorus.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

oh it sounds kinda classy, no doubt. I just think the faux-classy video all but negates it, if the lyrics themselves didn't do the job.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

my working theory on PATD has always been "Band tries to be like My Chemical Romance but forgets to study for it until the night before the recording session / video shoot, and only gets the vaguest of outlines correct, filling in all the wrong details."

Seriously, watch the videos for "Helena" and IWSNT back to back and witness wit, style and pathos be transformed ever so subtly into immaturity, garishness and camp.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I will do so.

Ha, so the funny thing is, the easiest way to hear a pop song these days without downloading anything is just by going to YouTube and watching the video. So that's how I've been listening to IWSNT -- except I'm at work, so I've not actually been watching the video, just minimizing the window and keeping my headphones on. Also, the few glimpses I've seen do look pretty stupid.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

jaymc OTM! I've been doing the exact same thing with the likes of Christina and Nelly F.! (And, until I bought the album, P!ATD.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 23 June 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

the easiest way to hear a pop song these days without downloading anything is just by going to YouTube and watching the video.

uh, maybe I'm biased because of I have a cable system with MTV Hits and all those other all-video channels, but seriously, what the fuck is wrong with that sentence, nevermind the matter of listening to the radio.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 24 June 2006 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

The campiness of "IWSNT" is what makes me like it! Serious emo is the worst thing in the world. (Not that "Helena" is super-serious.)

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Saturday, 24 June 2006 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link

emo is the worst thing in the world.

CDDB (Dan Deluca), Saturday, 24 June 2006 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Laddersngents, we have a new #1: Nelly & Tim take the throne, as Taylor Hicks falls to #3 with that song that reminds me too much of Lonestar's "Amazed." "Promiscuous" is the sales and airplay gainer for the week, so they can probably make themselves comfortable there for a couple weeks until/unless Xtina picks up steam. Gnarls inches up one to #5, while Cassie incomprehensibly sits at #6 (there's one of these empty-vacuum songs every year! last year it was Nina Sky, year before it was Lumidee). Hot Shot Debut is Ms. Hilton's "Stars Are Blind" at #18, where I expect it to peak. Pussycat Dolls score their fourth Top 20 hit from their debut, which I'm not sure anyone has done since Exposé (any chart fiends want to weigh in on this?). Shockingly, Beyoncé only moves up 7 to 37; and a bit lower down, Busta continues his inability to string together consecutive hits as "I Love My Moonbounce" slides 7 notches from last week's #41 peak.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Nelly & Tim take the throne

for a few confused seconds I thought you were saying that "Over & Over" had jumped back up the charts a year later.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

hmm - is the beyonce available for $ dl yet? i'd like to think it's tanking cuz it's dull but the two sentences prior suggest there must be other factors.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anyone else heard the new leaked Kelly Clarkson single? It's called "Go" and it's serious business. I totally love it.

musically (musically), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Al, I listen to the radio plenty -- I just mean when I'm at work reading ILM and want to hear a song that people are talking about, I can fire up ye olde YouTube and hear the entire thing in a matter of moments.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

last year it was Nina Sky, year before it was Lumidee

Both were 2004, actually.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Cassie incomprehensibly sits at #6 (there's one of these empty-vacuum songs every year! last year it was Nina Sky, year before it was Lumidee).

All three of these songs are brilliant! (and Lumidee is 2003) What's this talk about empty vacuums?

Pussycat Dolls score their fourth Top 20 hit from their debut, which I'm not sure anyone has done since Exposé (any chart fiends want to weigh in on this?).

Wanksta, In Da Club, 21 Questions, P.I.M.P.

It's Rodney, poised and rational! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Lumidee was 2003, actually. I don't really see a significant connection between Lumidee/Nina Sky's dancehall pop and Cassie's minimal R&B with Southern hip hop production, though, anyway. (xpost)

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

You guys are right about Lumidee = 2003. Don't know why I forgot that.

Al's also right about Cassie being the odd woman out in that trio. To me, "Me & U" sounds more like Teairra Mari's "Make Her Feel Good" or the original Tori Alamaze version of "Don' Cha."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

hmm - is the beyonce available for $ dl yet? i'd like to think it's tanking cuz it's dull but the two sentences prior suggest there must be other factors.

Nope. No word yet on a digital release date. She's already top 10, however, at R&B (up 12-9).

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 29 June 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link


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