could never take the place is still amazing and weirdly the guitar section now makes me think of weather report or return to forever but not nearly as flashy/bloated. very odd hearing an album youre so familiar with after leaving it alone for so long.
this might be my least favorite part of the whole record. the drum programming drives me crazy, that relentless fake open hi-hat over what should be a simmering breakdown
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 11 July 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
aargh the drums on ICNTTPYM drive me insane, if there was ever a Prince single for proper rock drumming
drums on the Cross are also terrible, as opposed to Sheila rocking out on SOTT live
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 11 July 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe the Mo Tucker effect on the album was intentional, I dunno
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 11 July 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
cmon, you think prince really was listening hard to the velvets? thats just something critics assigned to the song in retrospect, no?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 11 July 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah - I also seriously doubt he was listening to the VU. Wishful Critic Thinking.
The beauty of SOTT - and very much spoken about at the time it was released - is the very obvious demo-y quality of many of the tracks. Especially when Prince was always so good at passing off stuff he'd recorded mainly by himself as full band collabs (i.e. "1999", much of Purple Rain)
― Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 11 July 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Love the drums on "The Cross"! They actually sound live.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 July 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I also like the sorta crappy drum machine sound.
― Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 11 July 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
the drums on the cross are live. its not a drum machine. ICNTTPOYM is a drum machine tho, obv.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 11 July 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
prince would not be a VU fan imo... i think he would see them as deficient/too inept in some way.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 11 July 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
there's more than one AMAZING cd on emancipation but not much morestill necessarycrystal ball is not as good, but again there's at least one great disc
― brooklyn's complicated relationship with bacon (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 July 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I really don't think it's that big of a stretch that Prince would be familiar with VU.
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
In 1987? I do.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 11 July 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
there's more to life than Prince you know but not much more
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 July 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost
The VU albums were reissued in 1985 so it's more than feasible that he heard them then if not well before.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 11 July 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
well i could believe that wendy and lisa might have played him some
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 11 July 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly can't see Prince having even the slightest interest in a band that doesn't have "chops" in the conventional sense. and VU did not.
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 July 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
across the board, all his obvious influences - Kraftwerk, P-Funk, Sly, Joni Mitchell - were very slick musos
also just because a song has only two chords /= Velvets
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 July 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, he also loved Cocteau Twins c. the Parade era so maybe chops weren't everything...
― Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 11 July 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
uh Elizabeth Fraser definitely has vocal chops
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 July 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.westendextra.com/news/2011/jul/prince-spotted-berwick-street-purple-rain-superstar-drops-buy-cds-and-dvds-soho-record
who knew this guy went record shopping. seems like a wasteed trip though. hes in soho, hes going to SOTU, and he buys hendrix, curtis, sly and al green (all of which i am sure he knows off by heart). says it all really about where hes at these days!
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link
cementing his legacy/place in the pantheon?
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
that would be if he went around record shops reshelving his own albums ;)
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I would posit that releasing so many albums is the opposite of taking a chance. Dude should cull and concentrate, then drop an album that has more weight to it than "the newest Prince album until he releases two or three more next year."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
when Prince culls and concentrates, we end up with Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
culling and concentrating has never really been his forte
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha, too true. Musicology sounded like he made an effort, too, and that turned out ... better.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
when he culls and concentrates, he also records SOTT.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
A handful of rave-ups aside, it might be the quietest rock double album ever recorded.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Musicology sounded like he made an effort, too, and that turned out ... better.
Speak for yourself.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
"The opposite of NATO is OTAN"
makes ya think
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lohrzkYyV91qixko4o1_400.gif
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 18 July 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link
<3
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj273/mookiebut/funk_convulsion.gif
― corey, Monday, 15 August 2011 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJH-nLejSIg&feature=player_embedded
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh.
I've never taken the time to track down unreleased Prince stuff, but this is convincing me I should.
― dizzy gillespie plays a sax/ me, myself, i love to (max) (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 August 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
heard an incredible prince bootleg the other day - 20 min set, live in bbc studios in '92. just insane, especially the transitions.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 22 August 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link
you absolutely should rev, although the homemade bootleg series someone linked to in one of the polls threads does a pretty good job at collecting the best of it and grouping it by era.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 August 2011 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link
never seen these clips--watch while you can!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjN6NvaXx8&feature=youtu.be
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 20 February 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently there was a Revolution reunion show sans Prince at First Avenue tonight? Classic lineup + Dez + Eric Leeds with Wendy as frontwoman.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 February 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
uh.... fucking hell that video
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 February 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
The recorded version comes from that show (edited down a bit, with the coda added later). First time they ever performed it.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 February 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
has that video been out there?
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 February 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah wow
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 February 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
i'm just trying to imagine being one of the kids in the front row there... like it would take me possibly my entire life to comprehend being in that position
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 February 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
Not sure how long that video's been out there, but I watched it a few months back at least. There's other first performances of Purple Rain material from that show out there.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 February 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and it was Wendy Melvoin's first show in the band.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 February 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
Whoa, "When You Were Mine" in his natural register is like a whole different (but still amazing) song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WadJVLlS9Jw&feature=related
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 February 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
hard to believe that's the same show, i don't like that at all
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 February 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
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― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 20 February 2012 05:04 (twelve years ago) link
xp Really? I think that's my favorite performance of that song I've seen.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 February 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, seems tossed-off to me? is he even singing in the same key as the rest of the band? idk, i'm back to the purple rain clip
super pissed the "delirious" clip got its audio removed
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 February 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link