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sorry, thought it was done! i guess someone needs to post the final tracklist of 1 though... apologies.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, someone needs to pick a winner, the tracklist isn't so crucial :)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

besides, isn't only the one who makes the final shoot allowed to start a new album ? come on people, there are rules !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, fun is best when it's ORGANISED fun!

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone please pick something else than rock music, so I can join the game too...

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

eheh...
so won't someone finish low so that we can move on, hum ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

you're free to make the final shoot tuomas and choose any album you want ! it's organised but free, here...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Alright, you twisted me arm. Out with "Speed of Light":

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5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
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Derek Krissoff (Derek), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Meaning Speed of Life, obvs.

Derek Krissoff (Derek), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

good !
now hit us with something new

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Alright...what's next?

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

ABBA and Robyn aren't rock music Tuomas.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I defer to y'all, as I'd just pick something by Pavement and bore people. Aaron's suggestion upthread is fine by me.

Derek Krissoff (Derek), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

OK then...Forever Changes

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8. Live And Let Live
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10. Bummer In The Summer
11. You Set The Scene

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

great, but inessential.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8. Live And Let Live
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

The essence of Forever Changes isn't jaunty whimsy. Goodbye, Live And Let Live.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone please pick something else than rock music, so I can join the game too...

I did! It was a rap album! It got no love!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Andmoreagain, you're just too slow.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

michael jackson wasnt rock either

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Old Man" is a great song, but is in no way the essence of this record. There IS a clear winner here. WILL ILM GET IT RIGHT?

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Hello, I'm having a larf, aint i?

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The essence of Forever Changes isn't jaunty whimsy. Goodbye, Live And Let Live.

"Live and Let Live" jaunty and whimsical?!??!?! It's the darkest song on the album!!!!!!!!

"Good Humor Man" - now that is jaunty and whimsical, so must go

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9.
10.
11. You Set The Scene

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

oh and talk about weak tea

1 Synchronicity I
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11

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale" is my choice to steal from the album, because the remaining songs are clearly better.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
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4. Daily Planet, The
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6. Red Telephone, The
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10.
11.

zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, I'll justify it. I was stuck, and as Eno says in one of his "oblique strategies" cards, if stuck, take the one thing that you are most proud of, and remove it.

xpost, removing 11. You Set The Scene

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

"A House Is Not A Motel" not quite as good as the last three - i.e. only sheer staggering genuis

1. Alone Again Or
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4. Daily Planet, The
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6. Red Telephone, The
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11.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Red Telephone" is the schizoid, paranoid essence of Forever Changes.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

zeus blew it. nice job, zeus. (always wanted to say that.)

let me piss you off by eliminating everyone's favorite. but here's my thinking: not only was it done with a "studio band" instead of the "real" Love band, and not only is it just too standalone epic/iconic to really be the essence of an album..but Chris Perez covered it better in the 1990s in Spanish. Therefore:

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2. House Is Not A Motel, A
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4. Daily Planet, The
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6. Red Telephone, The
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10.
11.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

crap i meant
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4. Daily Planet, The
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6. Red Telephone, The
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10.
11.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

and hey jz PLAY THE GAME RIGHT AND DON"T JUMP THE GUN YOU WANKER

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes I suppose "The Daily Planet" has to go, because tho it's weird and slightly spooky, "The Red Telephone" out-weirds it, so:

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6. Red Telephone, The
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Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I was pulling for You Set The Scene. That's one of my favorite songs ever.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Right, Dukes of Stratosphear - Psonic Psunspots

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3. Little Lighthouse (Johns) - 4:24
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6. You're My Drug (Johns) - 3:16
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10. Pale and Precious (Johns) - 4:55

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"You're My Drug" - plain boring

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3. Little Lighthouse (Johns) - 4:24
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10. Pale and Precious (Johns) - 4:55

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

eff a beach boyz

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3. Little Lighthouse (Johns) - 4:24
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep, that was next on my list

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

For being a left-over XTC track really...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

For sounding too much like Oasis

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5.
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Little Lighthouse isn't pastichey enough, but maybe that's part of the essence of PS, they pulled back from where they were at with the earlier mini-LP. So - we only need one Beatles skit :

Oh - ha ha Grouty has rubbed it out anyway! Oh well.

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I always wondered what B.Wilson made of "Pale and Precious". And then I found, in the Domenic Priore Book, someone played it to him and he thought 1) that they were trying to sound like Paul McCartney, and 2) not much.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Collideascope sounds more like Oasis than anything, but don't let that decide for you, I've had my go.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

That's preceisely why I binned "Collideascope" and said it sounded like Oasis!!!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Dada, only one go per album please! :)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh sorry! I'm new to this game...

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

You won't see Jackie on this list...

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2.
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Notice how Colin Moulding's doing so much better than old clever clogs Andy Partridge?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2.
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7.
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

I only really like the music hall pastiches now, so goodbye Shiny Cage.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, that killed that one. You guys will have to do "galang" next or summat.

Hey, how come the 'winners' are up on the first thread message? Is this a backwards thread after all?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

tom did the trick... it's gonna be the tracklist to an "Essence de ILM" compilation...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link


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