I saw the mary chain five or six times & the only time they didn't absolutely RAWK was on the Munki tour after William had bailed. They even outstaged most of the acts on the 92 Lollapalooza roster in broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon!
― steady yachting (Pillbox), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
wait I spent lots of money to buy the rhino reissues - what's the diff this time around?? I could go visit the link but I prefer to be indignant.
― dayo, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
The only one of the Rhino reissues I didn't get was Munki, not sure I want to spend the money on these seeing as I have the box set too.
I know another ilxor (Sick Mouthy maybe?) has railed against them sticking bonus tracks at the end of CDs, but I don't get why thats such a deal breaker for some people. Just stop your CD or don't rip 'em if they bug you that much. As long as they are at the end of the disc and not cluttering up the original tracklisting, I have no issue with this. I'd rather have them cram four extra tracks on that disc than struggling to fill up a second disc worth of crap so they can charge a "deluxe" price.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
saw them when they were touring for honey's dead and again on their reunion tour a few years ago and they were way better on their reunion tour
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
The lyrics to JMC's "About You" got me a girlfriend back on the old college vaxmail system singles b-board back circa fall of '88. No big deal, but I thought it should be recorded for both record and computer nurd posterity.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
I'll get Psychocandy for sure as the Rhino reissue has an annoying audio hiccup on "Just Like Honey" at the 8 second mark that drives me nuts. Also, finally having "Jesus F*ck" is important. Also, to this day I find all the very early video totally exhilarating - it makes me want to button the top button of my shirt and turn my back to everyone.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 07:46 (twelve years ago) link
The only one of the Rhino reissues I didn't get was Munki,
munki wasn't reissued by rhino.
― mark e, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 07:51 (twelve years ago) link
I see that Darklands will have the NME version of "Some Candy Talking" which makes it a must have for me. Also, can't wait to hear "Darklands" with strings!
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder if they'll be newly remastered? Does anyone know if Upside Down contained the 2006 remasters?
These are truly completist gems. Will likely get Automatic too as I passed on the Rhino version.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 07:58 (twelve years ago) link
You wanna talk completeist?
"Vegetable Man" and "Upside Down (12" demo version)" plz.
Also, "Taste of Cindy" when it originally came out on the "Hit" magazine e.p. had a split second intake of breath which was excised on the album.
IT WAS AS IMPORTANT A MOMENT AS THE SPLIT SECOND PAUSE BEFORE THE SECOND GUITAR SOLO ON "I HEARD HER CALL MY NAME"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
OK, that track listing for CD2 isn't revealing what those tracks actually are, in most cases.
I never got the Dualdisc issues, the extras looked fairly lean pickings, and weren't available in the UK for some reason.
OK, I've decided, those 2CD+1DVD sets are going to have to live at my house...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 08:31 (twelve years ago) link
"Vegetable Man" and "Upside Down (12" demo version)" infos plz
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
Also, still want to hear their cover of Jefferson Airplane...
Well, as I say, the 12" version of "Upside Down" had those two tracks on it. It never got issued, but I did have a white-label copy of it which I sold for a tidy sum a while back.
The "Vegetable Man" was as per the 7" version, it's not been reissued before, apart from the box set.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
Actually, come to think of it, they had a song called "Send me away" on their original demo cassette which I've never seen since, unless it has a different title
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link
Explains why I don't have it and never came across a copy then.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
i heard (and not via ILM !) that upon the release of Munki on Creation, it sold less than 3000 copies.would love to know how many of the reissue sells !
― mark e, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
It was so long after-the-fact, it doesn't surprise me.
It seemed so odd that WBros turned the album down and released the bits-and-bobs collection "The J&MC hate RockandRoll"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
everytime i see this thread, i'm freshly repissed that it doesn't say "chainia"
do over
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
what? no
― HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
"SMC to JAMC and BRMC but maybe GHMC is better or possibiliy IFJDOMC, MCCMMCCM, or HFRUEIIMC"
Bar two and three, were any of these actual bands?
I went to the RFH gig and nearly got into a fight with Bobby Gillespie in the toilets after I politely asked him why he wasn't playing drums.
It was good in a nostalgia fest kind of way, Snakedriver was particularly robust but William was pretty fucking awful and every time Jim went to say anything between songs he just did a massive power chord so you couldn't hear what he was saying. And they murdered the slower stuff like Nine Million Rainy Days. Pretty sad really.
They were better at the Brutus benefit but I guess that was a more emotionally charged night or what have you.
― Rebekah Brooks Ate My Country (Doran), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
they were great at the roundhouse a few years ago. much better than circa munki
― cw, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
surprised munki was so unpopular, if it indeed was, it's probably in my top 3 JAMC
― oh shit a behringer (electricsound), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
Munki was totally decent, though I only gave it a chance last year for the first time since its rep was so bad.
― Euler, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
interested in the Darklands reissue
i once had the Upside Down/Vegetable Man 7" but i think i lost it
;-(
― brownie, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
it's not hard to find
― oh shit a behringer (electricsound), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it's probably in my box of records
― brownie, Thursday, 14 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
> OK, that track listing for CD2 isn't revealing what those tracks actually are, in most cases.
ok, disk21-2 are from CRE0123-6 are Peel session 23 Oct 847-9 are Peel session 03 Feb 8510-13 are Peel session 29 Oct 8514-22 are demos from 83-85. 14, 21, 22 (Up Too High / Living End / My Little Underground) were on Negative Thinking20 (Just Like Honey) was on NEG13the others (Upside Down / Never Understand / Taste The Floor / In A Hole / Something's Wrong) were previously unreleased. doesn't say if Upside Down (Demo) is from the 12"23 Never Understand Alternate Version was on Negative Thinking24 Jesus Fuck previously unreleased
― koogs, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
dvd has
Never Understand, You Trip Me Up, Just Like Honey videosIn A Hole from whistle Test (12 March '85) (but not the others)North London Poly Riot (15 March '85)Interview / Never Understand from VRT Belgium (17 March '85)Just Like Honey / Inside Me from the Tube (11 October '85)
― koogs, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
Lovely.
You say "not the others", but they only broadcast one song at the time, so maybe that was all they did.
― Mark G, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
really? it's been more than that in my head all these years. i remember the buzz (and distinct lack of, was really divisive) in the VI form common room the next day. all that from 3ish minutes? (haven't watched the dvd yet)
― koogs, Monday, 8 August 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
Looking at the HMV page for this, it seems they've found Murray Dalglish.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
Was he missing? His wee brother still lives in Bishopbriggs as far as I know.
― everything, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
Nickname: "Dalgy" of course.
― everything, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
24 Jesus Fuck previously unreleased
Is this the title for the upcoming Creation Records movie?
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
i would see that
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
love the way they all sit down at the end of In A Hole. andy kershaw looks about 12 when introducing them.
bobby g looks cool and is funny throughout, especially at end of the riot video.
and have just seen Teenage Lust video for the first time. was banned in uk and i always wondered how bad it could be. the answer is 'pretty bad'. there is a teenage stripper wandering around naked for half of it.
(dvds are all ntsc btw, which is less of a problem than it used to be - i only realised because it said so on the disc, dvd / tv played them fine)
― koogs, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 07:12 (twelve years ago) link
Out Tomorrow.
― Mark G, Sunday, 18 September 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
One of those bands that I love so much that I totally played them out.
― John Lennon, Sunday, 18 September 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
There is that, yes. But this is 2011 and I'm ready to revisit "Darklands" ....
― Mark G, Sunday, 18 September 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:45 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark
Waht.
― ᒓᴥᒔ (ENBB), Monday, 19 September 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
xp - On the Wall has been my heavy-rotation mary chain jam of late
― the island badger is an ageless pirate (Pillbox), Monday, 19 September 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
xpost:
Apparently played live a number of times but no recording that I can track down.
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 29 September 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
GREAT Jim Reid DJ mix:http://www.mixcloud.com/DemonMusicGroup/jamc-inspirations-influences-jim-reid-1985-mix/
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 29 September 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
Huh, wow. I'd love to hear that too.
― will eat pudding (ENBB), Friday, 30 September 2011 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
A bunch you'd expect, and a bunch you wouldn't.
― Mark G, Friday, 30 September 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty surprised Jim liked Trixie's Big Red Motorbike tbh, didn't they used to slag off all the twee indie bands (apart from the Pastels, obviously)?
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 30 September 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
i am surprised at the pastels mention actually. not heard him mention them before. makes sense musically, chronologically and geographically but sometimes that stuff creates a rivalry.
― koogs, Friday, 30 September 2011 10:00 (twelve years ago) link
Also, US ilxors who want the reissues should order through Amazon.co.uk - much cheaper and actually in stock. I ended up paying just under £10/$16 each delivered.
― Spencer Chow, Saturday, 1 October 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
1st time I saw The Pastels they were opening for the JAMC. First time I saw the JAMC too actually.
― everything, Saturday, 1 October 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link