amy winehouse - C or D? [RIP 7/23/11]

I think my other favorite song of hers was either "Love is a Losing Game" or "TEars Dry on Their Own"...

I don't buy a lot of modern pop records but I really loved frank and back to black. Rip.

And I don't give a shit about yr stupid "27 club", Twitter.

I'm angry more than anything else, at the moment.

yeah. it feels like it needn't & shouldn't have happened.

already the assholes are out on the social networking sites. jeezus for once can't anybody show restraint.

yup time to log out of facebook

And I don't give a shit about yr stupid "27 club", Twitter.

seriously. 1st tweet i read about this was the mirror showbiz guy helpfully pointing this out.

Frank was so underrated. when I think back to 08, which was a very great year in my life, I think of that album a lot, as that was the year I discovered it (along with Back to Black).

happy at least that I'll have those memories...

I didn't know her music well, just "Rehab" and the Ghostface track, but I'd read some of the stories of her difficulties. Twenty-seven from my perspective is not even the starting line. Feel so bad that she didn't make it out of the woods.

this is a total fucking waste and really tragic

just found out about this from facebook and I don't even know what to say except "damn"

planning to attend a 50s/60s soul dance party tonight, and I will be going HARD in yr memory amy. RIP

just the enthusiasm she had for music. you could tell she lived and breathed it. Every detail on Back to Black showed she was a student of the 60's girl pop she was creating, but she and her team made it her own, brought it into the 21st century, without insulting or watering down the genre.

and god, that voice.

very sad and too young.

somehow never would have expected this to be as profoundly upsetting as it is, stupid though it sounds. RIP amy.

she had at least one song ("tears") that i loved as much as anything i heard in the last ten years, and plenty of other good ones. this is horrible. r.i.p.

fucking hell

Wow, awful news to wake up to. Though I can't say it's shocking, it's still incredibly saddening... poor girl. She was so talented, had so much more to offer. R.I.P.

"Rehab" is a song by English recording artist Amy Winehouse from her second studio album, Back to Black. Written by Winehouse and produced by Mark Ronson, it was released as the album's lead single in the United Kingdom on 23 October 2006. The lyrics are autobiographical, describing a protagonist's drinking habits and refusal to enter rehabilitation clinics. This appears to have been a poor decision in hindsight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehab_(Amy_Winehouse_song)

Seriously, fuck the internet and fuck the people of this world, this is horrible news and so heartbreaking to think of so much squandered potential and talent. Thoughts and sympathies to her families and friends, I hope that this makes some people think long and hard about themselves and the people they are, and how we deal with substance abuse and addiction so it wasn't all in vain.

^^ this

this has led me to discover the "b-sides" disc of Back to Black.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/06/AR2007020601885.html
rereading that 2007 WaPo article linked upthread; ?uestlove's comments struck a nerve with me:

"Once I heard [her music], part of me felt like: 'Don't... rock the boat. Let this take its course 'cause that way you'll get great music.' And part of me wanted to reach out to her."

yeah. it feels like it needn't & shouldn't have happened.

Lex OTM

Questlove's comments strikes me as an example of "just cos something is true, doesn't mean it needs to be said"...

I hate Facebook at times like this. Someone was complaining she'd "lowered" the 27 club. PLEASE FUCK OFF.

yea and the other things are:

"92 dead in Oslo, and we're talking about THIS" (yes, because nobody can find BOTH tragic)
"The world is so fuxxored, why does this matter" (see above)

I've decided to just post youtubes of her vids in retaliation...fight fire with really fucking good music

xxpost I dunno I thought it was a pretty honest response and like, the whole tortured genius mythology... argh I dunno. my brain is addled cuz I've just been reading Diderot's 'Paradoxe sur le comédien' where he argues that the best actors/artists are totally 'unsentimental' pros, and obviously Amy is the polar opposite of that... *throws up hands in confusion*

not that I want to turn this thread into ILM's umpteenth discussion about all that shit. I should just shut my mouth.

this is really weird... i never really thought she would die suddenly like this, for some reason. i guess i just assumed at some point she would smarten up and be like "whoa i'm completely ruining my life" but i guess that never happens to some addicts. fucked up.

bernard-i think i was somewhat retroactively biased by the fact that I know what I know today and his comments are 4 years old. I really don't have a problem with his 'sentiment' because it's not like he's the first or only person or musician who have feelings like that. so I retract what I said, being that he said this 4 years ago.

xpost: i dont think it happens for MOST addicts. i think we just expect it of large-scale entertainment types because (for better or worse) they have so many people around interested in keeping them alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXSvRWsNJJg

she was SO amazing. her life the last couple of years seemed tragic, as does her death.

she walks awayyyyyyyyy
the sun goes down

this makes me so sad. she made two fucking brilliant records and could have made a million more.

Sometimes you have to hit the absolute bottom before you run out of resources and enabling situations that keep you an addict. Then you need the resources to turn it around. Unfortunately, she had enough enabling in her life that, from reading about her situation, she bounced off the bottom enough times that she never made it away.

This is incredibly sad and it just reminds me of the people I know who continue to burn through all the good will others give them.

This is heartbreaking. Can't believe some of the reactions, some dick on my facebook actually said 'Good riddance to another skag-head' FFS.

way, way, way too soon. RIP.

i didn't really know her music that well, to be honest, but i loved what i knew. RIP.

and also, glad that my friends on fbook aren't being horrible. in fact, most of them are expressing deep sadness. yall need to make better friends.

and also, glad that my friends on fbook aren't being horrible. in fact, most of them are expressing deep sadness. yall need to make better friends.

^^^

the worst i can say is that a few people i follow on twitter are parroting the "27 club" line.

i've blocked most of the ppl whose opinions i don't care about anyway but my FB feed has been nothing but condolences today

everything's coming up winehouse

I saw her play here, and went in with a total open mind. But I left really disappointed, not just by her erratic performance but by the absolute, tight, dead-on performance of her band, from cues to dance moves. It made me think, man, do these guys just not give a fuck at all? Sometimes I wonder the same thing about the dudes backing Lauryn Hill and Brian Wilson. Is it unfair of me to think of them as the ultimate enablers/exploiters/advantage-takers, or are they the only thing keeping these artists afloat at all? I'm torn.

i guess i just assumed at some point she would smarten up and be like "whoa i'm completely ruining my life" but i guess that never happens to some addicts

that's not really what happens to addicts, full stop

brian wilson is doing fine

wow

RIP Amy, you recorded some great, great music

xpost WIlson is fine, but I keep thinking of the "Smile doc, where he's surrounded by all these folks pushing the idea and he just looks like he wants to be anywhere else.

Met her once. Was working in the coffee shop at the CN Tower at the time and she came up to the counter and asked me for a plastic bag. Couldn't really think of anything to say so i just handed her the bag and mumbled something. When i told my friends about it, they gave me a load of stick cos of my dumbstruck reaction. A few weeks later i read this in Rolling Stone

Alongside the world's tallest free-stand-ing tower, one of the world's tiniest pop stars is crouched next to a garbage pail, collecting a pile of eyeliner pencils and mascara tubes between her hands. While Amy Winehouse wanders the courtyard of Toronto's 1,815-foot CN Tower in search of a plastic bag to hold her cosmetics, the man who was her fiancé on that May afternoon but who would be her husband five days later smokes a cigarette from my pack and looks bored.

My brush with greatness

xxpost @ Josh in Chicago: If they're session pros then they're usually there to make that $$ with a smile on their face/looks of intense engagement with the music even if they couldn't really give a f*ck. And if they're really good at what they do then you shouldn't be able to tell they're hating their life as they play for you. (disclaimer: i've personally known/worked with some of these folks.)

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Met her once. Was working in the coffee shop at the CN Tower at the time and she came up to the counter and asked me for a plastic bag. Couldn't really think of anything to say so i just handed her the bag and mumbled something. When i told my friends about it, they gave me a load of stick cos of my dumbstruck reaction. A few weeks later i read this in Rolling Stone

Alongside the world's tallest free-stand-ing tower, one of the world's tiniest pop stars is crouched next to a garbage pail, collecting a pile of eyeliner pencils and mascara tubes between her hands. While Amy Winehouse wanders the courtyard of Toronto's 1,815-foot CN Tower in search of a plastic bag to hold her cosmetics, the man who was her fiancé on that May afternoon but who would be her husband five days later smokes a cigarette from my pack and looks bored.
My brush with greatness

― Number None, Saturday, July 23, 2011 6:47 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark

haha this is great

PS Brian Wilson's "That Lucky Old Sun" album from a couple of years back is kind of a "return to form". He at least sounds alive and engaged on that one.

awwwwww no this sucks :(