this new lloyd banks record is so tough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38y0HKFK3KY
― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
lloyd banks still having a career is routinely fascinating to me
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link
pound for pound the best rapper in g-unit, glad its him and not tony yayo tbh
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
it makes sense in the same way as Fab still having a career imo, and he carries around a lot of the benefits of having been part of 50's crew without all the baggage of actually being 50 (xpost)
― some dude, Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but fab pumped out hits for years before having a little lull. banks had like... two solo hits then took a six year break before "beamer, benz or bentley"
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i know, the momentum is different but the logic is still kind of the same, in terms of "guy who does punchlines AND has commercial instincts" being a weirdly rare money spot for east coast rappers still getting shine
― some dude, Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, but Banks has always been respected as the best pure mc in the g-unit camp and one of the top younger ny rappers, and even though G-Unit isn't dominating things like they did 6 years ago they still have a pretty sizeable fanbase/following (they're pretty much the only people that bought Before I Self Destuct, for instance, which went gold iirc). Plus he's putting out solid records that cater to his core... so it's not that surprising, really.
― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not completely convinced that banks is getting much burn outside of the northeast but still pretty good for him.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
also, he just had appx ONE album that tanked. it's not ALWAYS the kiss of death, even in this climate.
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link
going six years with barely even sniffing radio when you're really not even a national star to begin with usually isn't an encouraging sign
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
hilarious thing about the '09 50/Ross beef is that Before I Self Destruct STILL outsold Deeper Than Rap
― some dude, Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i liked banks a lot but i still haven't heard anything since he's been back that makes me feel like it's much more than serendipity. "beemer benz or bentley" had a cool beat. that song w/ jeremih had a good hook. idk.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
damn, "bbb" doesn't even have a million youtube views. that's p weird. was it a super late video?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, the unofficial on 50's account has 1.8m
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
this fake swizzy one was NOYCE imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEH1biyH1QY
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
NoYCe
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
ian cohen compared XXX to carter 3
NOYCE
― mark (er) s (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
actually no, he compared the "monopoly" beat to the "you ain't got nuthin" beat, which is a connection that i also immediately made
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Tbh, I don't think I've heard a Lloyd Banks song in about 5 years. A couple guest appearances here and there maybe?
― dizzy gillespie plays a sax/ me, myself, i love to (max) (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
lloyd banks was def a respected rapper in ny for awhile, he sorta owned the laconic punchline rapper thing
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
All this Main Attrakionz/G-side/Lil B/Cities Aviv clammy clam Altered Zones rap is like one pubic hair away from PM Dawn. What happened to the days when a snare could take your neck off. Why does every rapper want to be signed to Sacred Bones or something?
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i feel like i need some kind of "shit that knocks" filter when looking for rap on the internet now
― some dude, Sunday, 21 August 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, who wants to play dominoes?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
they don't call it cloud rap for nothing
― Number None, Sunday, 21 August 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
All this Main Attrakionz/G-side/Lil B/Cities Aviv clammy clam Altered Zones rap is like one pubic hair away from PM Dawn.
lol this is otm but that's what I like about G-side, the stoned hippies staring at clouds sound
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 21 August 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh my god there's a This Heat sample on the Danny Brown. Game fucking over.
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Please bloggers keep jacking off over the fact that Tyler knows who sneaker/T-shirt designer Ian Curtis is
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
agree w/ whiney re cloud rap, i cant get into most of this stuff. the one tape i thought i liked, turned out my fav song was a Pimp C beat Id forgotten about :-/
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link
these dudes just cant write songs, shit is basically indie rock obsessed w/ ~atmosphere~
there are obv some songs that pull this off but they are rare. i am into the kendrick lamar despite it being a bunch of impulses i'm against in theory, i think he pulls it off
Yeah, I like the less cloudy stuff on the Kendrick. But the Black Hippy tape kinda murks it. Whose fault is this? Wiz?
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
is "queens get the money" off the nore mixtape an original beat? i really love it.
(that's a mixtape i've been bumping all summer, prob quietly become my favourite of the year)
― lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
wiz is largely responsible for this, yeah. i almost want to blame young money for some of the shitty rapping but i'm not sure even i buy my own theory there xp
― k3vin k., Sunday, 21 August 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, wiz is a big touchstone for some of the more normal side of cloud rap
otherwise... idk, flying lotus? idk what clams casino listens to. maybe we can blame this on microhouse?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway a lot of the stuff whiney brings up has its merits
also danny brown is not really this
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
No one said it was, especially not whiney
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ blaming microhouse, p sure the only connection is ilx user 'deej'
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
seems to me its more Drake-related. maybe dudes getting into boards of canada? could it be chillwave, lol?
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Zola G-Up
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
last name "ever", first name "chillwavest"
― shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this is definitely drake + khalifa + kudi/808s kanye
anyway I tried listening to Main Attrakionz but the first song samples GLASSER so I had to turn it off and listen to some M.O.P.
― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Forgot Cudi!
― Lil Boosie's on the Up (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
cudi is a huge one for sure
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i would probably say wiz is the least influential of that triumvirate bw listed
not sonically
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
the kendrick album is pretty much a direct descendent of 'kush & oj'
^bingo yeah this is what i was trying to get at
― k3vin k., Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
the kendrick album is much diff than main attrakions tho
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I don't really get why Kendrick is being included in this convo
I mean I guess certain songs on his record are "spacy" but I don't see him as a part of this movement at all
― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
thats like, prog-pop-rap like lupe or BOB style wedded to drake w/ some wiz in there too. wiz's stoned melodic sound is a lot closer to max b (who he's claimed as an influence, and i hear it in song construction tho not rapping) than the kind of listless ~vibing~ i hear from main attrakions
eh but who knows
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
kendrick's tendencies are all ones i dislike in rap, its amazing that i like that lp as much as i do
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link