Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

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i don't hear waylon's voice as being anywhere as awful as fred schneider's. kristofferson's, on the other hand, sounds like to me like the country leonard cohen. except that leonard cohen respects his limits.

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, jimmie dale gilmore has a pretty bad voice...nasally and croaky simultaneously. who'd have thought it possible?

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate everybody.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh that's right, It's been a while since I took a look at this thread. Anyway, I agree. But the B-52's are much much funnier and Cindy and Kate are both way better singers.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I still consider Cosmic Thing to be one of the finest albums in recording history. This might be because I've had it since I was 9 though.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

This album (of the decade) is getting a lot of play at frat parties and strip clubs.

― Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Cindy and Kate are both way better singers.

er... no.

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

>But the B-52's are much much funnier <

Also no (at least for the past 25 years).

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

er... no.

er, YEAH.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

this has been a really shitty decade

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

The albums I prefer to Big & Rich's (and there are plenty) are definitely more exlcusively subcultural and/or youth-oriented, so I can see the logic of this being an album of the decade (so far - we're only at the half way point), even if it's not my own. Can't think of an album that anybody over 30 would offer that would be more deserving (though feel free to correct me).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C23DP.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

gah!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Those Big and Rich harmonies sounded particularly thin last night. Gretchen Wilson repeatedly blew them away when her songs came up.

― danh (danh), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure it's young country fans that like Big and Rich. Not old ones.

beside the point. Compared to my favorite albums of the decade that have a specific worldview (Desaparecidos, Good Charlotte, Nellie McKay for instance), Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade (hell, maybe if the Black Eyed Peas got their shit further together).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Big & Rich aren't coming from a young-person-entering-the-world context. Their anthems allow for a more universal age to voice them. Plus, unlike countless albums I find rewarding (those artists, Travis Morrison, David Banner, Kimya Dawson, etc. etc.), Big & Rich - except for their theme songs - aren't as dependent on a specific persona. I'd like to think a rap group (and I think it would have to be a group) might eventually top Big & Rich for open worldview anthems this decade

wha? huh?

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah that entire post made absolutely no sense to me. What is an "open worldview anthem"?

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

sting - "brand new day"

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah that was a clumsy post, I apologize. The Big & Rich album strikes me as a very inclusive, anthemic album that, unlike most of the albums I prefer over it, don't come from quite as personal, subcultural or as youth-oriented a context (except for the few songs that are about being Big & Rich). I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

and fuck a sting

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"I can't think of an album in that field that tops it for consistency." - ok this has me baffled

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't think of an album that's as solid without being more distinctly personal, youth-oriented or subcultural. As I said earlier, please feel free to nominate others.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

the beatles - sgt. peppers

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

cute

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

so basically, what you're saying is: "it's not indie. it's well-produced. it is also a better album than anything else that is not indie and is well-produced that was released so far this decade."

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

waylon jennings had a way worse voice than fred! so did kris kristofferson, maybe. i'm pretty sure waylon was worse, though.

noooo way....krisofferson's voice just sucks....waylon had a great voice! it was manly! just i'm surprised you don't like his outlaw stuff like "are you sure hank done it this way" and "don't you think this outlaw bit's done got outta hand"....god waylon was great.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

if you actually read what I wrote earlier, frankE, there's plenty of non-indie stuff I like more. It's just that most are blatantly written from the perspective of someone in their early 20s or written in a personal "this song is about ME" way. So if somebody over 30 wants to say the Big & Rich is the best album of the decade so far I've got no beef with it.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

http://studentweb.tulane.edu/~kseger/confused.gif

― frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry I'm wasting your time

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I like how the album of the decade has about 6 people calling it that

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

ever voted for a third party candidate, gear?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

that's an option?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Not in our voting system. But in one designed to deal with more than two candidates, such as the Pazz & Jop poll, yes. Next question.

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

so does this mean I can vote for Horse of a Different Color for president?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

well you could arguably vote for big or rich as your write-in candidate.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i suppose my favorite waylon song is "luckenbach, texas." but i swear, i've had a couple ten-song greatest hits CDs by the guy sent to me in the past couple years, and they were both really really hard to get through, his voice is so fucking draggy and ugly and leaden. the individual albums were even *harder* to get through. (i DID buy *honky tonk heroes* on vinyl a couple years ago, and I liked that one a lot - maybe because it was all billy joe shaver songs? I dunno...)

― chuck, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

FYI, Roots, Rappers & Rednecks - Nashville's New Sound, a documentury featuring interviews with Big & Rich and Gretchen Wilson, is starting on BBC Radio 2 now.

― Richard C (avoid80), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

heh this is a great typo: "tobacco chewing, beer drinking beer drinking Wilson"

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

"did we mention that she drinks beer?"

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish i could like big & rich. gretchen wilson is pretty cool.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

So.

*Big & Rich's Super Galactic Fun Pack* -- second best album of the decade?? (Just kidding. I think. But EP/DVD Dualdisc of the Decade for sure. Even Lil Jon himself might have to admit that.)

― chuck, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

oops. Fan Pack, not Fun Pack. (Piracy Fans Terrorism.)

― chuck, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

btw perhaps the most revealing moments of the dvd are the parts where (1) john rich says (i'm paraphrasing, so check dvd for actual words) that big kenny "keeps trying to touch me, and i let him" and (2) when big kenny says (i'm paraphrasing here too, so ditto) that when they first met they were like "two bird dogs sniffing each other butts, and we didn't know whether to fight or fu......um, chase down some lady bird dogs." wow. they do some crazy new songs as well, by the way (both on the EP and on the DVD itself). and john rich reveals that he knows who twista and busta rhymes are, and the footage of north carolina and wyoming is quite beautiful and spectacular indeed.

― chuck, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice. Is this out or just a promo so far?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link

it's been on the billboard hot 100 and the country album chart for two weeks now, so i assume it's in stores, ned.

― chuck, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Works for me!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

amazon isn't carrying it (yet, i guess). the only place i've seen it is on the b&r site...

― john'n'chicago, Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

TS: Big & Rich vs. Pontius and Steve-O

I still haven't fallen in love with the album (though I like a few of the singles), but they sound like they'd be a complete fucking blast to hang out with, and sometimes that's more important.

― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

album of the decade for those who find kid rock to be not quite cartoon-y enough.

― billy mcbob, Saturday, 20 November 2004 07:10 (nineteen years ago) link

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