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well sure, but that was in the day when tons of rappers went platinum, the bar for platinum's really high now but in the late '90s/early 2000's it was almost kind of too low
― some dude, Friday, September 2, 2011 7:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
yeah but some rappers still sell. i think drake is more likely to sell to a buys-cds fanbase than yo gotti. certainly jay-z as well
― D-40, Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
i have to say it is kind of amazing that Wayne came out of 2010 relatively unscathed, Rebirth actually moving units and Cash Money timing singles/features well enough that there was really never any point when he wasn't on the radio the whole 10 months he was locked up. i really thought that was going to be the point where the world kind of moved on from him and Drake and/or Nicki started to be a much bigger star.
― some dude, Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
i think the fact is ppl respect drake as a rapper more than they respect either drake or nicki.
― D-40, Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
argh i mean respect wayne obv
yeah but that didn't stop Kanye from becoming in some ways bigger than Jay
― some dude, Saturday, 3 September 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
yah but i think theres an ideological consideration there ... jay couldnt be an anti-50 cent the way kanye could
― D-40, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
whereas i dont see the same kind of need for a drake or minaj ... maybe a minaj, idk, but we'll see how much further she runs from rapping
i don't know what "need" means here. i mean millions of people feel the need to hear their songs on the radio five times an hour, that's the only need that matters, right.
― big spiritual hat club (some dude), Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
thats pop appeal, obv i think wayne's got to have more or taio cruz would be selling wayne numbers
― D-40, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
like wayne is 'legit good rapper' + pop appeal, kanye was "thinking man's pop star rapper" which made up for the fact that he wasnt actually thinking rlly, but he wasnt a gangster like 50 ... there was a need for all the ppl for bourgeoise / 'conflicted' rapper contrast to 50 cent
imo
― D-40, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
at this point record sales are only an measure of popularity among people who still pay for music, not really a great measure of general popularity.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, September 2, 2011 7:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
i don't think this is necessarily true for someone like lil wayne who moved an exorbitant amount of albums in week one -- i'm sure that there are a lot of ppl for whom carter IV is the only album they'll buy this year, maybe even out of brand loyalty. moving 900k in a week in 2011 is a REALLY great measure of popularity imo
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
once again tho its a measure of 'an artist we are likely to spend money on when we almost never spend money on music' which is v different than the way things used to be
― D-40, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
maybe even out of brand loyalty
i'm going to bed now and this isn't really an argument but i just want to pick up on this and lob the whole 2011 stan culture angle into all of this cuz i think it's relevant
― lex pretend, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
Drake had a huge fanbase already when he was signed.
― swagliacci (The Reverend), Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
didn't he officially sign after "best i ever had" was already in the top 5
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011 9:30 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
i'm not sure what your point is? that wayne's number is less impressive? cuz i think it's more. or maybe you're sorta arguing w/ shipley even tho i'm not really making his point
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
no i think thats totally impressive -- not arguing w you per se
― D-40, Saturday, 3 September 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
ok
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/201111/lil-wayne-gq-music-issue#ixzz1bKdbd3Xd?currentPage=all
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
the historical implications of lil wayne skateboarding til sun-up in ur town
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, idk about this guy
the skateboarding thing is only less embarrassing than the guitar playing cuz it doesn't infiltrate his music, but i guess it's kind of cool that wayne is showing up at random skate parks across the country and hanging out w/ teenagers
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still like a kid, because unfortunately my childhood was raped away from me because I became a star
huh
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
why you rape away lil wayne's childhood like that
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
birdman did what?
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 October 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
Like, people watch commercials, and they're like, "Who's gonna buy that?" I'm the person they make the commercials for. I watch them, and I'm like, "Oh God, that's awesome."
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not a star, somebody raped
― some dude, Friday, 21 October 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://fashionably-early.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/lil-wayne-face-tattoo.jpg
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
ever since you got them titties youtalkin bout you thinkin bout some ass shotstakin all these snapshots different backdrops
― johnny crunch, Friday, 27 November 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link
dedication 6 sounds good
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link
I'm pretty far from a hip hop expert but he is my favorite rapper I've ever heard. Da Drought 3 being his pinnacle.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 30 December 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link
So is this album, possibly, really good?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWsL43lj5QMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft4UN-Dd8_s
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link