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Oh, darn me for not reading the GBV thread first.

Alas and alack.

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry about that, but yeah replace Jandek with Los Del Rio, Basement Jaxx, Dean Friedman, etc. Typical ILM BS.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

x-post --> too much scrabble has scrambled your head, little hobbit.

jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

longest crosspost delay evah

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

haha, i got your AIM at about 4:30am this morning JC. the Jandek exercise was not founded in fact (although i haven't listened to the man in several years now).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

It's turned into something more involved and interesting than I expected, and is definitely no longer trying to be an exact portrait like the earliest chapters try and be. Somewhere between fanfic and psychological study, eventually. Or so I hope.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

you should send it to the great man himself when you're done

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

Good lord, what a frightening thought.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, you should send it to him. I sent a letter to Jandek a few years ago because I wanted to get his permission to use his music in a film project that I never actually got around to working on, and he sent me a letter in return. He explained that he doesn't mind people using his music in films, but does not want money, only credit. He offered to send me a box of cds, and for some reason I never wrote back and accepted his offer even though I really would have liked to have had a bunch of free Jandek cds.

I'll have to set aside some time to read your stuff, Ned...

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

things to do with a boxful of jandek cds...

1)

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

Yeeps, personally I'd think it was a weird intrusion! Especially since the story really only uses his general situation and some specific details as a background to something else which is invented out of whole cloth. I've specifically not used his name (or the label's or any of the album titles) for a reason.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

I suppose I'll let the guys at the fansite know about it, though. Hell, it's where I'm getting all the chapter titles and the image on the main page!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, yes, my little novel thing is done and I did write Seth Tisue about it, at least, along with including a little disclaimer of sorts. Rah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

you wrote a novel based on jandek album titles?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

Nope, not titles.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

covers?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

Not specifically.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link

complete and utter speculation?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

Read the disclaimer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

No!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

:-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link


jandek doesnt seem that great once youre used to him

duane, Friday, 7 November 2003 23:25 (twenty years ago) link

same w. the dropping a guitar on yr foot thing i guess

duane, Friday, 7 November 2003 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

yeah but think of the infinite ways one can drop a guitar on one's foot

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 8 November 2003 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I love Janedek.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 5 August 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Banacek.

Irv Beevlefetzer, Saturday, 6 August 2005 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link

if you mean former pittsburgh steeler john banacek, then i'm on your side.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 6 August 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Jandek is a box of smoke. Open it and...*poof*.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:07 (sixteen years ago) link

did you call me a poof?

electricsound, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Twenty years ago I came across Jandek records and was naturally pretty miffed. Then I read some short article in Option, I believe. Seemed like an interesting oddity. Then lost touch with it. Then ran across that Jandek on Corwood film, which I thought managed to express both a sincere appreciation and still keep its wits about the situation. I thought Doug Wolk did a very good job balancing his analysis, as opposed to the Half Japanese movie The Band That Would Be King where Cosloy and Coley came off like pompous assclowns (OK, Byron you don't own any Beatle records, you're really cool) and Half Japanese sounded like a bad joke.

But then I read that Jandek was out performing and it seemed so wrong. As if the concept finally ran its course and was now something else that didn't quite work. I dunno. I'd be curious how others see it.

That's my longwinded way of asking: how do you feel about Jandek in 2007?

smurfherder, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 04:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw a show, it was fair, but ultimately kind of boring (though I am very glad I went). But I have been listening to Manhattan Tuesday though and it sounds pretty nice.

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

McJandek.

Gorge, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm fucking greater than Jandek, and I can't play much either. Here's a whole album on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVfydUa-I78

I don't get Jandek.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

But then I read that Jandek was out performing and it seemed so wrong. As if the concept finally ran its course and was now something else that didn't quite work. I dunno. I'd be curious how others see it.

I agree, it would've been much cooler if the man just had quit at some point and enter total obscurity (again) (not even reprinting sold out records)

Ludo, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

"cooler"

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link

surely you are also greater than jackson pollock and william carlos williams

don't sell yourself short

xxp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

"cooler"

:)

Ludo, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm humble by nature.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link

so much depends
on my
wallowing in
internal
whimsy
I
again

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link

is this ilm jandek street team day or somethuing?

Crackle Box, Saturday, 9 February 2008 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

there are jandeks in my area. my favourite jandek lives in a house in the middle of nowhere with all the windows boarded up. there are rusty old instruments everwhere, red lights, the place stinks of chai tea. 100s (maybe 1000s?) of cassettes of stuff he's recorded. lovely guy. listens to a love supreme a lot.

Crackle Box, Saturday, 9 February 2008 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Glasgow Monday is surprisingly good....some nice (dare I say pretty?) piano playing by Jandek, creepy bowed bass and percussion work for that "signature" skeletal Jandek sound

only record of his I find enjoyable to listen to, at least in certain contexts

Malcolm Money, Saturday, 9 February 2008 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Choice quotes from a recent Jandek concert review (appearing in full at
http://blogs.denverpost.com/reverb/2008/07/29/jandek-the-bug-theatre/)

"He didn't seem like someone who enjoys humanity buzzing in his ear. When performing, it seemed as though he was unaware that he was standing in a roomful of people."

"The formula, if there was one, reminded me of childhood, when I would make up a tune with friends and we'd sing along in sentences, giggling because we weren't rhyming and weren't trying to. This was adult playtime, and with feeling: the scatterbrain rhythms and breathy backing vocals didn't make much sense, but they held a world-weariness that children can't fake."

"You should have seen the veins bulge and quiver in that skinny man's neck every time he prolonged a note. But the voice was just a voice, neither husky nor high, and the words hung dead in the air, chilly and flat against the fuss in the background. Suddenly, he began to smile and move in the direction of Ms. Gould, who I could see was also smiling. The two smiles became grins; they held for a moment, and dissolved as the slim figure slunk back to his post."

zero of the signified, Thursday, 14 August 2008 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i like the "jandek vs. mariah" comment below the article.

get bent, Thursday, 14 August 2008 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link

jandek is awful. what is this guy's appeal? you know, beyond the 'mystery'

res, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

some of the best depression music i have ever heard!

tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Well he's not exactly a mystery anymore...

RabiesAngentleman, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

lol that comment should have ended with "you never her."

tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

eh?

In a gray, discordant, and broken sort of way there's a lotta feeling here. If you're into gray, discordant, and broken music. There are times and places where I really enjoy that. Sometimes he reminds me of very early Fall, like some of the murkier bits on Dragnet, taken several steps farther.

RabiesAngentleman, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

only $10 on the website!

sleeve, Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

what does it mean when Jandek just sounds REALLY right to you? like, the planets are aligned and any album or live recording of his is just...right in your mental wheelhouse. all the chords and notes and riffs sound like the perfect way to play something. the singing and lyrics the perfect way to express life on earth.

it isn't always like this. by a long shot. should i call a doctor? or just roll with it while it lasts?

i mean this glasgow sunday live album right now is just hitting the spot in a big way. but i've been listening all morning and it just sounds righter and righter.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:47 (one week ago) link

Just roll with it. That aphorism about everything finding an audience eventually is legitimate.

Too bad yr not in Los Angeles, Jandek is playing the Lodge Room tonight and there's still tickets available

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:05 (one week ago) link

sometimes when I’m listening to John Oswald’s Plexure I’m just like “I don’t need to listen to anything else again. can all music be like this?”

brimstead, Monday, 3 June 2024 04:47 (one week ago) link

yeah in my experience listening to Jandek is this journey from "I'm too upright to not have to be thinking about the whole deal" to "I'm listening to music, but I'm also thinking about Jandek" to "I've internalized all the stuff about Corwood and his anonymity and his emergence and that's all background now and I'm just listening and it feels like music that is very alive, very human, very individual."

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:56 (one week ago) link

Telling my kids this was Primus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLwiYpSTFE

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Monday, 3 June 2024 16:59 (one week ago) link

that is such a magical clip

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 3 June 2024 17:06 (one week ago) link

Grab yrself a can o' Cor woo-da

River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Monday, 3 June 2024 17:22 (one week ago) link

I know I heard this late at night on KROQ in 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgAdBibDVwE

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 June 2024 18:06 (one week ago) link

call me crazy but jandek and his wife seem annoying af and im glad i didnt pay to see that haha

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 3 June 2024 19:19 (one week ago) link

first of all - i am totally happy for him and them
but wow, given what Jandek represented way-back-when
(i was at that first glasgow gig)
it is hard to wrap my wee brain around the idea that he's in a long-term relationship with (married to?) someone who likes to post snaps of them both on instagram! such an inversion of the earlier anonymity. it's kinda nice.

https://www.instagram.com/veganloca/?hl=en

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:13 (one week ago) link

my brother took my nephews to that rudyards gig. they must have been 10 & 13 or so
apparently the encore started up exactly where the main set emded

sknybrg, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 01:34 (one week ago) link

wow i had no idea about mrs. jandek! so weird. she is a really big Smiths fan. what a world we live in.

scott seward, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 02:50 (one week ago) link


call me crazy but jandek and his wife seem annoying af and im glad i didnt pay to see that haha

all the best Jandek stuff is pretty annoying! but it's for getting annoyed by in the privacy of your home

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:06 (one week ago) link

Don't paint your teeth

timellison, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 03:11 (one week ago) link

too late

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:01 (one week ago) link

It's wild looking back that all the speculation at the time was that Sterling was ill and close to death which was why he started playing shows, when now with hindsight it looks far more likely it was his wife's idea.

Overtoun House windows (aldo), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:11 (one week ago) link

he had definitely been ill, at least according to my nurse wife who saw him play in like 2007-2008 and was struck by it

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:12 (one week ago) link

i.e. why not both?

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 14:13 (one week ago) link

sometimes a good relationship can change someone's life

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 15:23 (one week ago) link

every time i eat a cantaloupe i hear jandek singing "cantaloupes are SOOOOOO good to eat"

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 17:51 (one week ago) link


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