33 1/3 Series of books

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Just to clarify, what I really liked is not so much the Wynton Marsalis diss. What's cool is that he actually treats "mak(ing) people who don't listen to hip-hop sit up and go 'Hmm, maybe it is real music.'" as a negative.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Z: I did read it and it is good. A Poe short story, too: you can down it in one sitting.

I should really put together a proposal for "Return to the 36 Chambers".

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Did anyone hear anything about the Loveless book?

Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh
Parallel Lines, by Elisabeth Vincentelli
Three Feet High and Rising, by Brian Coleman
Tusk, by Stephin Merritt
Computer Love, by Michael Bracewell
Marquee Moon, by David Keenan
Master of Puppets, by Tom Bissell
The Basement Tapes, by Damon Krukowski

The editor/creator of the series, David Barker runs a blog about the series. Email him directly if you like:

http://33third.blogspot.com/

I finally read one of these. I think I picked a great place to start, Douglas Wolk's Live at the Apollo. It was really really good.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Greatly enjoyed Meat Is Murder, the Joy Division one was more of a factual view but still very interesting, the Dusty one didn't work for me.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

God, I cannot wait for the In the Aeroplane over the Sea book. The excerpt and things I've read by the author seem like she really gets it spot on.

PB, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

why aren't those ones happening?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i just bought the James Brown too. not started it yet.

also got the ABBA one, which i devoured in a day. twas OK, wish Ms Vincentelli had spent fewer sentences justifying (or having to justify) the book's very existence. also i'm not sure she cracked the problem of how to order the narrative, though I accept it's a toughie.

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

according to the blog:

These are a few of the projects that - for various and sometimes complicated reasons - never made it to fruition. Some came very close to happening, others less so; but they all would have been fun.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh

Why not?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

For those ...

Matos' Sign O'The Times book's prince has been slashed (on Amazon at least) to $4.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826415474/qid=1122928710/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-2999298-5726417?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
I'm sorry to tell you that we've chosen not to sign up your proposal for the 33 1/3 series.

This has been a difficult process: we received dozens of very strong proposals from dozens of very good writers and it's a shame to have to turn down so many of you.

If you're interested, the 33 1/3 books we eventually decided to sign up are:

"If You're Feeling Sinister" by Scott Plagenhoef

"Aja" by Don Breithaupt

"Shoot Out the Lights" by Hayden Childs

"Pretty Hate Machine" by Daphne Carr

"Use Your Illusion" by Eric Weisbard

"Horses" by Phil Shaw

"Double Nickels on the Dime" by Mike Fournier

"Pink Moon" by Amanda Petrusich

"People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm" by Shawn Taylor

"Achtung Baby" by Stephen Catanzarite

"20 Jazz Funk Greats" by Drew Daniel

"The Dreaming" by Ann Powers

"Rid of Me" by Kate Schatz

"Another Green World" by Geeta Dayal

"Songs in the Key of Life" by Zeth Lundy

"Trout Mask Replica" by Kevin Courrier

"Let's Talk About Love" by Carl Wilson

"Lucinda Williams" by Anders Smith Lindall

"69 Love Songs" by LD Beghtol

“Marquee Moon” by Peter Blauner

“Swordfishtrombones” by David Smay

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Congrats to Drew and Geeta! (Are there other ILMers on this list I don't know?)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

ann powers is actually esteban buttez

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Scott P. has been around since the Greenspun days.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish you could get these easily in book stores (AND NOT JUST IN THE AEROPLANE MURMUR THE SEA LIKE ROUND HERE).

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

hey everybody read the frank bruno one and then try to make yrs like him cuz it is AWESOME

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

i have only read 2

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

the franklin bruno one is not only awesome, it is superhuman. one of my fave pieces of rock criticism ever.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah same here

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I loved that review he wrote of that indie-boy novel, so I guess I gotta get this book.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ysi?

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
DeRo disses Matos for doing (very well IMHO) what he himself does in like every review ever (poorly IEHO): http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/sho-sunday-dero04.html
http://topatoco.com/artwork/itson-big.jpg

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

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jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Jim Milonakis?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I found that one entertaining and was actually less satisfied with Michaelangelo Matos' self-indulgent look at Prince's "Sign o' the Times," which spent entirely too much time dwelling on how the author discovered the disc as a teenager in the Minneapolis suburbs.

So then I guess he didn't read the 100-odd pages in which Matos discussed Prince.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Shh, you're giving it away!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"...he not only gives us the perfect adjective for Sly's dense epic ("swampy," indeed) but the nugget that this was a pioneering use of the beat box. (Who knew? I didn't.)"

DeRo is a FUCKING MORON.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

The one supposedly on the Replacements was AWFUL!

Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Yeah, it's all info, no prose. A lot of the 33 1/3 books seem to forget how much people like that.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

personally speaking, i'd read a book that wasn't taking on yet another album from the canon. c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Christ, that quotation. Shakey OTM.

David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

Someone should do Tom T. Hall's greatest hits.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

(That was a "dig deeper" joke in case it wasn't clear. LOL @ self.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I just fell asleep.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i've got an idea, fellas, let's create a book series in which we reinforce the canon some more.

seriously though, i realize the books have to sell, hence the more mainstream angle. i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.tapemountain.com/raggett.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

ned you should pitch that one!

actually do you think they would let somebody self-33 1/3? if it was some famous musician?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Morrissey did write a book actually! (didnt he?)

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i think it was about the new york dolls or something

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

He founded the series in spirit!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought it was on James Dean, re: Moz's book

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Morrissey is not attracted to Morrissey.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

Carl Wilson is writing one about Celine Dion's "Let's Talk About Love".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

You are all OTM regarding the Franklin Bruno Armed Forces book, but has anyone read Daphne A. Brooks' take on Grace? I found it largely disappointing for a number of reasons. For someone who's obviously deeply in love with the material and who has deeper access to the Buckley archives than most, she made some really frustrating, bizarre factual errors. Maybe I'm being overly-pedantic, but simple mistakes like misquoting lyrics kept me from enjoying and engaging in the book as much as I could have-- like I couldn't trust her after a certain point. Clearly, I'm an asshole, but did anyone else have problems with this?

Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Saturday, 10 June 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

The Aeroplane book was excellent. The Pet Sounds book was not.

Steve Schneeberg (Steve Goldberg), Saturday, 10 June 2006 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Somebody pitched to do Killed by Death Vol. 2 for the last round of books. I would have loved to have read that!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I sometimes daydream about which album I would write about were I to ever send in a proposal.
And I think I've worked out that it would have to be Confield by Autechre.
Partly because I've already written a good 3 or 4 articles about them in the past and I'm a big nerd; but specifically this album because while it is likely their most well-recognised album, it's also the one I've had most trouble getting to grips with. And it's precisely this "thorniness", with 22 years' hindsight, that I'd like to make peace with. Whereas I could probably wax lyrical about LP5 or Sign or Oversteps, it's Confield that I think would yield the most interesting writing

...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link

I would love to read that.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 22:21 (eleven months ago) link

I daydream about writing one on You and Your Sister by the Vulgar Boatmen.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 23:43 (eleven months ago) link

It looks like two really great ones are out this month and next month; Erotica and Ingenue, good timing too considering they’re both from the same year.

piscesx, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:26 (eleven months ago) link

four months pass...

Open call for Proposals for 2024, deadline is March 29th.

https://333sound.com/33-1-3-open-call-for-proposals-2024/

piscesx, Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:16 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

Saw some grumbling on Facebook that 33 1/3 books are avoiding reggae and dancehall and have turned down pitches in those genres

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:09 (two months ago) link

Here is link to proposals they just accepted and will be published in 2026

https://333sound.com/announcing-the-newest-33-1-3s-2024/

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:19 (two months ago) link

Moss Icon’s Lyburnum Wits End Liberation Fly

I think this is the first title in this series where I have absolutely no idea who, what or why. Don't tell me, let the knowledge slowly seep into my brain by osmosis.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:33 (two months ago) link

Guessing I should give up on the idea that Agata Pyzik's Tin Drum book from 2015's list will ever come. :(
Possibly torpedoed due to the two fairly comprehensive Japan books that came out right after? Ho hum.

mr.raffles, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:55 (two months ago) link

ngl but a few of these records seem like grasping at straws to me but what do i know

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 July 2024 01:38 (two months ago) link

I think a compelling book could be written about any of them, but overall the series is so patchy

encino morricone (majorairbro), Saturday, 20 July 2024 04:21 (two months ago) link

"I think this is the first title in this series where I have absolutely no idea who, what or why. Don't tell me, let the knowledge slowly seep into my brain by osmosis."

its a really good album!

scott seward, Saturday, 20 July 2024 05:02 (two months ago) link

Except for Woodie Guthrie and maybe Cher the list is just decent enough Us and Uk rock and r& b but with no dancehall, reggae, afrobeats/ afropop, blues, jazz , South Asian or Latino sounds .

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 July 2024 05:19 (two months ago) link

Gorillaz’ Plastic Beach by Ihor Junyk
Interpol’s Antics by Gabriel T. Saxton-Ruiz

lol ok

Murgatroid, Saturday, 20 July 2024 05:58 (two months ago) link

I guess I’d be interested to hear about the guests on Plastic Beach - DLS, Reed, Ryder, Smith all used very well I think.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 20 July 2024 06:57 (two months ago) link

Incoming asshole post: imagine reading a whole book on a gorillAz album let alone writing one

brimstead, Saturday, 20 July 2024 14:59 (two months ago) link

I swear I try not to be a snob but man some people are really missing out on… how good and wonderful music can be

brimstead, Saturday, 20 July 2024 15:02 (two months ago) link

moss icon album is patient zero the biggest subgenre of american hardcore. will be happy that book exists if it comes out

ivy., Saturday, 20 July 2024 15:05 (two months ago) link

its a really good album!

OK, but this is the same publisher that turned down Carl Wilson's proposal on an album as foundational as Dub Housing because it was too obscure. But maybe Moss Icon are a bigger deal than Pere Ubu ever were, I honestly don't know.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 July 2024 15:43 (two months ago) link

Chris Richards of the Washington Post has been doing deep dives into mid-80s and later onward hardcore and post-hardcore and wrote a big 2023 article about Annapolis hardcore band the Hated. The article briefly mentions late 80s /early 90s Moss Icon. There seems to be a bit of a renewed interest in that era, but yea is it bigger than that into Pere Ubu Dub Housing

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 July 2024 16:04 (two months ago) link

The Hated were so great, got to see them twice

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 July 2024 16:29 (two months ago) link


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