getting a tracy morgan vibe from busta 2k11
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i swear busta's 'verse' went on for like 5 minutes
― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
everyone itt = three years late in fawning over BET awards cyphers
get back at me when you get up on fab rhyming sarah palin with parasailin'
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol yeah Busta was good but I was like "wait this is way longer than everyone else's"
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Busta looks 60 and 300 pounds. Em looks dead and 100 pounds.
― matt2, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:24 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha <3 jordy
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
in any even these were pretty okay I guess, i really liked 2 chaaaainz, he had a good mix of dopey NY punchlines ("my credit card is black and proud" !!) and laid back southern swagger. and the MMG one was pretty good, if only for meek mill shouting out gunplay
slaughterhouse one was obv the worse for having the worst smug rappers.
busta needs to give it a rest -- sitcom dad OTM
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
oh hi dere thread police as i've heard the other ones (they were usually just posted in the rolling threads), am i allowed to also enjoy this years ones or do i have to be jaded by it all too?
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
they really missed the boat on not giving riff raff his own 6 min block -- the only true freestyler in the game
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
meek mill was def the best in the maybach music cipher. pill was typically lame
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
well ross was the best but obv that goes w/o saying
meek mill was good... but it's not exactly the best venue for his raps
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
stalley's verse was cool
and whoever Lacrae is, I liked his verse iirc
― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
blind guy lol
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think ross was the best at all!
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
thought whoever did a played out stevie wonder / shades line after the blind guy was pretty crass
yeh kendrick has style
― racks on top of racks on top of rack on racks on racks (tpp), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah i forgot tech n9ne was dope too
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
don't know why anyone gives Rick Ross the time of day, personally. can't stand the dude.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
hes an ok rapper but he releases great songs. 'im a boss' will be in my top ten this year, shit sounds so good when it comes on the radio. its like a jolt of caffein
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
caffeine
ross is one of the best rappers out right now and he can actually get an album out w/ no bullshit, which puts him in the class of like... five rappers
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
he can actually get an album out w/ no bullshit
not sure what you mean here
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
do you mean an album that doesn't have any bullshit on it, or an album that is not subject to the usual major label shenanigans
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
'one of the best rappers out right now' -- cmon dude. one of the best rap artists maybe, but no one is memorizing ross verses
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, i dont think he's a bad rapper or anything, hes just a competent one
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
overall, competent is a good word, i think he makes the most of his talents and has good taste in expensive beats
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
also he has big titties
i remembered one
eeryday im hustlinhustlinhustlineeryday im hustlinsomething about noriegahe owes me money honesthustlinim not a cop srs
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
i think he makes the most of his talents and has good taste in expensive beats
this seems about right to me - most of the time when I hear his stuff my overall reaction "wow this sounds expensive"
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
lol a hoy hoy
i mean im happy ross exists -- hes made pop rap good again -- no way would i say hes one of the best rapper-qua-rappers out right now tho
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
nah I agree with jordan he is one of the best rappers out right now
paints awesome imagery w/ his verses.
― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
but no one is memorizing ross verses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ygruvz2jVY
― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
to answer shakey's question: I mean it in both of those ways (tho i would also classify "9 piece" as bullshit, but in a different way)
As for rapper qua rapper... whatever, I don't particularly feel like splitting hairs in that way atm. Best "rap artist" it w/e is fine with me. Altho plenty of ppl including myself have memorized rick ross verses. He's become a better rapper AND a better artist... rhyming iPhone and cell phone aside, he's not really still the guy from "hustlin". But we've been over this.
I bet "ross is cool" vs "ross is not cool" would split almost directly along "listens to the radio" and "doesn't listen to the radio", ship aside
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda like ross at times but he is still hella easy to make fun of.
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah he's not switching flows up or killingthe internal rhyme game, but dude found his voice for imagery
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
He's become a better rapper AND a better artist
do you think he uses a lot of ghost writers? i always kind of assumed he did
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
i really doubt ross has a ghost writer
― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know... nozzle (leaving this autocorrect) made the point years ago about soulja boy but it IS possible to just improve as a rapper. The knee jerk assumption of rap fans to be all GHOSTWRITER!!!! when a dude gets better is weird and dispiriting. We all get better (or hope to) at creative pursuits over time, I don't think ross (or lil wayne) is exempt from that.
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
i could totally see ross having a ghostwriter. or several. not that i think this takes away from how good his songs are
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
i obvs don't get to listen to rap radio much but when i was in miami (duhh) and california earlier this year rick ross joints sound dope yeah
i didn't hear any of the MMG stuff tho (which is dope) but 'aston martin music' is such a radio banger.
― racks on top of racks on top of rack on racks on racks (tpp), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
i guess it was always my impression that ghostwriting was way more common than people think, even with rappers that you wouldn't expect to use them
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder how far it goes back? i know big daddy kane ghostwrote, he was the first person i really heard it about...until like jay-z and mad skillz made a big deal abt it
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
I think "Aston Martin Music" is the only Rick Ross song I've heard on the radio here. :/
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder how far it goes back?
do you consider Rapper's Delight ghostwritten or just biting
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
rap stations in chicago move in blocks like -- lil wayne, ross/mmg, drake, waka
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
i want to live in a-mer-i-ca
― racks on top of racks on top of rack on racks on racks (tpp), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:40 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the old story is that they actually stole grandmaster caz's rhyme book right? though that sounds a little to cute/possibly apocraphyl
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
no way ross has a ghostwriter, because every single verse has the same rick ross flow
― some dude, Thursday, 13 October 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
I dont understand the disconnect that everyone wants Ibiza bloodfart Bruno Mars rap 364 days of the year and then Twitter reliably jizzes their pants on the one day a year when BET lets Chris Brown act like Anticon guys going to Skribblejam.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 13 October 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
twitter users and radio listeners are both large groups of people that are not necessarily many of the same people, for one
― some dude, Thursday, 13 October 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
hehehehe @ this entire argument
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 October 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
i heard buddens was to shook to battle the based god live on the BET awards
oh yeah b.o.b's was dope, it's too bad he refuses to rap
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 October 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
man gunplay got quoted TWICE in these things, weird
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 October 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
oh chris brown really opened his verse with a boxing metaphor? YOU DON'T SAY
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 October 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ luda's emphatic "WHOOOOOOO" for 2 chainz' one grocery bag ling
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 October 2011 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
LOL @ his pronounciation of "galifinakis"
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 October 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the shaky analogy i'm looking for is people freaking out about prince's "while my guitar gently weeps" solo when it's been how many years since a top 10 hit even had a guitar solo -- i mean excitement displays of virtuosity probably gets even stronger when that particular type of skill falls out of favor in popular music
i think that's a good analogy, and just like these freestyles, no one really thinks it would work on the radio. not that people don't want to hear a great verse or a great guitar solo within the context of a hit, but pointed chops showcases like these makes for better internet videos than pop music.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
kwame wasn't that bad!
#polkadotswag
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
just watched the first one and holy shit eminem
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
my fav so far, of course, is drake
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
I find the things whiney finds infuriating totally befuddling
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
as in I guess I am just totally oblivious to them, the pop rap twittersphere, blogfeeds etc
*goes back to hide in cave*
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.rap-up.com/2012/10/09/video-bet-hip-hop-awards-2012-cyphers/
― tpp, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
wow we had a really long thread about 2011 bet cyphers
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
longer than chipmunk's forehead
― tpp, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
west coast one is fun. i like YG's bit!
asap rocky really embarassing
― tpp, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
when isn't he
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
t.i. standing with iggy azalea, b.o.b and trae in that pic really does underline how deeply bizarre grand hustle is in 2012
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link
i think t.i. leaving dro out of the grand hustle cypher is the final straw for me
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
grand hustle has forgotten more dope rappers than most labels ever had on their roster
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
went straight to the West Coast one - Quik cracking me up
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Loved the west coast one, way more fun than the others.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
After Mac Miller did his thing I was thinking like ehhhh not tooo bad I guess but then Mystikal comes in and just lays waste by shear force.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
it was a very good year, cool to see lamar as a dark horse:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtWjKdSciA
https://vimeo.com/30509290^^last great em verse I can think of
― niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link