Odd future were the new clipse except they found a big skater audience so they'll be ok after the critics forget about them as a hype cycle phenomenon, while kanye had to rescue pusha t
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
Meanwhile how many of you check for can ox material? No? Before your time?
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda doubt there's a larger % of skater kids in odd future's fanbase than in a lot of other young rap acts, that's more their image than their audience
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
new pusha sucks btw
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i disagree!
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
pretty good article on lex luger
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/lex-luger-hip-hop-beat-maker.html?_r=1&ref=music
sorry didn't see the waka thread
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
i think there's a good argument to be made that the pusha album is the best major label rap album released this year
of course there's almost literally zero competition, but still
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
i'd take watch the throne and even gucci & waka over this.
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
i forgot about WTT. pusha is better than gucci/waka
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
gucci/waka was p boring imo
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
i liked neither WTT nor gucci/waka
― sisilafami, Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
pusha is pretty boring imo -- not bad but it is such a "major label rap record" in like every way
many of the beats are just aite
i think gucci/waka is a bit dull but will seem better once we've moved away from that sound
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
pusha t record is like the 2011 equiv of slim thug's 'already platinum' but w/out '3 kings'
im rlly curious Al, since u brought up the asap thing again, if u are really feeling this track http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12731-palace/
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
what most ppl in the industry are wondering isnt if hes odd future or kreay but if he's the next Drake, btw
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://thefsd.tumblr.com/post/2544944924/me-i-run-the-streets-bananas-chicagorilla
dope
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
(thats old btw)
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
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i'm confused, did you get the idea somewhere that i LIKE asap rocky's music and was defending it?
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
were you feeling gucci gucci? i mean when it comes down to it, the real truth of the matter is just that 'gucci gucci' is dope & most of asap's stuff is not
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
imo
"gucci gucci" is a better song than "peso" sure, i agree w/ that. i have no idea what point you're trying to make or what you're trying to get me to 'admit' though. again, did you get the impression i was sticking up for rocky?
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
no, but it seemed like u were trying to point out some kind of hypocrisy or w/e in my perspective but it really is as simple as that
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
not hypocrisy, just tedious inability to understand anything beyond the worldview you've set up around your own tastes and agendas
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
idg what puts you above the same thing? or anyone on this board? arent we always expressing these kinds of things? wtf is your point?
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno it just seems like any parallel i drew between those two artists gets instantly knocked down by the objective truth of "but she's GOOD and he's NOT"
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
instantly? i didnt even mention that until the most recent post; i already made arguments abt audience, style, and relationship w/ media/critics prior to even bringing up quality, which happens to be an aspect u agree w/ me about, mr. nitpicker
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
well i think her song is mildly more listenable/quotable than his, i'm not all SONG OF THE YEAR or w/e
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
al you're just being a dick right now
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
sorry dudes, i just didn't understand why deej was all "review this asap rocky song for me it's important"
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
i don't actually think you're being a dick, i was just making a callback to the juiceman thread
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
lmao
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw he is being a dick & no one asked him for a 'review'
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
i really do actually want to know Al's opinion on this artist & his trajectory & etc., do u think hes the next drake etc., but he'd rather try to clown & nitpick at unimportant bullshit or malign me or my motives or opinions so
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
you know asking me to listen to listen to a track posted on gun sounds and offer an immediate opinion of it is a lost cause, man, i don't do that shit
but ok i've got it on -- this is better than "peso" but i dunno maybe years of hearing hundreds of local mixtapes just makes me realize how dime-a-dozen cats like this are. are people REALLY looking at him as having a Drake-type career? that makes zero sense to me, on any level.
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
i actually prefer peso but i think something about clams casino beats began and ended with the first few lil b tracks i heard him do
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
well i don't listen to lil meme so i'm not real familiar with this guy's sound
― prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
^channeling dr morbius
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
Young Buck rips another guest spot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQlNINPB8k0
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
i like the clams casino beats on that asap rocky tape - don't see how it's more 'branded' than most other producers of the moment. now the rapping on the other hand...
i checked for the new 2 chainz too and found it embarrassingly bad mostly.
― tpp, Sunday, 6 November 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJSRH7fNFY
this is an amazing track tho
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah the 2 chainz isnt touching trapaveli 2 or codeine cowboy
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
weird i loved a lot of stuff on new 2 chainz, frustratingly the most heinous lyrics are in the first half but on otherwise hot songs & there was some really good stuff on the second half (addicted to rubberbands thru the jadakiss feature is a good run). i really like his personality, sleazy sense of humour & his verses are solid for the most part
― flopson, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
gonna give it another go - not sure i made it to the 2nd half
"griming..............see that's when you mix grinding...and timing together"
groan
― tpp, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
grindming
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwYiVcpJZQg
what do you guys think of tha joker? his flow here has a bit of that swishahouse thing riff raff bites, this youtube has like 6 mil views & it was recorded when he was 17 (ca 2009) so we can talk about how amazing it is that he's just a kid a la odd future, lol
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
his latest tape just dropped & imo this one is p dopehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKmTmsc4dU
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7VUFIUXAc
this is 'blow stacks' another jam off his record
too many luger/fake luger beats on it but there are some jamsi think j0 would probably like a fair amount of this, its p fruit swagged out in parts, R&B choruses & etc.
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
i fear he might have 2 chainz disease where half of what he says is clever and half of what he says is 'clever'
― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link