Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

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Hey, this all worked for Eric Clapton, didn't it?

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 08:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, I think Dom is jealous that Morrissey has zinged the NME about ten million times and he never will.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 08:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no idea if he's a racist or not - but he did the smart thing in getting out of England. It's a shithole full of angry, repressed, frustrated, alcoholic, ill-educated people crammed on to part of a tiny island. Give me the US, Australia, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, or Scotland any day.

-- Emily S., Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:54 (8 hours ago) Link

now this i can get behind, except the last sentence.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:19 (sixteen years ago) link

he's not objecting to immigration per se, he's objecting to the perceived specific consequences of immigration in England (or so i suspect).

-- blueski, Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:41 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Link

eh?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Next year on ILM: Morrissey releases album of Prussian Blue covers. "Clearly ironic/whimsical/nah nah not listening" claim ILMers.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Prussian Blue are just nostalgic for an era when Jews _were_ in gas chambers, they're not saying that they'd like to go back to that time. God, listen to the lyrics in context.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Prussian Blue are just trolling black people duh.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

England is a memory now. Other countries have held on to their basic identity, yet it seems to me that England was thrown away

http://images.scotsman.com/2002/05/05/0505bnpb.jpg

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:29 (sixteen years ago) link

London Bee Enn Pea head in "gay porn film" hilarity

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Sheila take a, sheila take a bow
Throw your homework onto the fire
Come out and find the one that you love
Come out and find the one you love

http://ict.org.il/var/119/52807-Nazi_Book_Burning.jpg

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, the only reason to get involved with the BNP is for the whole D/S scene.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link

said Morrissey exclusively in the NME this week.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:34 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/mitfords.jpg

Some girls are bigger than others

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd let the Mitford sisters kristal my nacht any time they want, hey guyz?

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Dood, it's that whole Posh Women Be Dirty thang again.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:38 (sixteen years ago) link

We should have a poll on which other celebrities could come out with "I hate immigration" and have ILMers falling over themselves to defend him.

My vote = Kylie.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Burial

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link

paris hilton

oh, wait.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

cheryl cole

oh, wait

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

That dude from Savage Garden

Maybe more of a Poptimists thing, that.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I feel a Pole coming on.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Roald Dahl S/D

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Thing is, I was listening to George Formby the other day, and nobody's gonna trump him for racists-who-made-the-best-music

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

From what I understand, for all the comedy Chinese stereotypes he made money off of, George's politics were pretty forward thinking.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Formby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morrissey

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^4-4-2

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I read this in Sainsbury's last night. There wasn't much to it. Mozzer's comments indefensible really, but at the same time I can't be arsed being bothered about them. Meanwhile, a few pages later is a full page advert announcing the fact that Mozzer's Roundhouse residency has sold out.

I liked the bit in the interview about how because of the internet, everyone's a reporter nowadays. I mean, who on earth is he talking about?

PJ Miller, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:53 (sixteen years ago) link

But the change in England is so rapid compared to the change in any other country. If you walk through Knightsbridge on any bland day of the week you won't hear an English accent

Funnily enough, he wouldn't have heard one in his own house when he was growing up as both his parents were IRISH and IMMIGRANTS. Fucking dickhead.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Next week in NME: Zucchero moans about the dilution of Italian culture by shit indie expats from the UK.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, at least Ray Davies still lives in Britain! He can boohoo about penny farthings, chimbley sweeps and powdered eggs from day-to-day experience.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Also when he goes to America he gets shot so this may colour his opinion of abroad.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Racist?
Bengali In Platforms - questionable, I put it down to bad phrasing myself.
National Front Disco - no
Asian Rut - no, but arguably quite naieve.
Did anyone see Andrew Collins pop up on the SOTCAA forum? He basically said the whole Morrissey = racist thing was the result of a slow news day and a misjudged gesture by Moz himself...

-- DG, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Andrew Collins and SOTCAA = the kind of British culture we must do our utmost to save

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I find them quaint and amusing. But they are a memory now.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link

SOTCAA was the only kind of British culture worth saving.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Some of the Patos Are Amusing

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Well put.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Perhaps Morrissey is hoping England could be more like, say, France, where they preserve their national identity by putting all the immigrants where no one can see them? That works really well.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:34 (sixteen years ago) link

TBF you can't move on French radio for Hip Hop tho.

Most of it about how shit it is being black in France.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Somebody needs to break into his kitchen and see if he has a Ronaldinho bottle opener. That would clear up straight away whether he's racist or not.

aldo, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Perhaps Morrissey is hoping England could be more like, say, France, where they preserve their national identity by putting all the immigrants where no one can see them?

You mean in the French national football team?

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Saying "immigrants are diluting our culture" kinda clears up whether he's racist or not.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:41 (sixteen years ago) link

You mean in the French national football team?

Elephant in room.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:42 (sixteen years ago) link

World Cups and Euro Championships in trophy cabinet

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:43 (sixteen years ago) link

In my country, immigrants are diluting our culture. For the better.

Please pass judgement on me asap, kthx.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:43 (sixteen years ago) link

1p3 is not a country
the noise board are not immigrants

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I say arrest Noizers and send them where they came from. 1p3 for the 1p3ers!

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Can someone find that dude that wrote this awful blogpost for The Guardian during the World Cup, saying that France should beat Italy in the World Cup final because of the number of black players on their team shows how France has always been a bastion of liberal egalitarianism, ignoring the fact that the reason that France has a half-black national team is due to 400 years of colonialist oppression.

He then went on to say that Ian Wright was an "intelligent" football pundit. Shit was jokes.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link

The reason that Italy doesn't have a half-black national team is because they could never get their shit together.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link

honestly, i dont see how someone who cares about their country and wants to keep the national culture alive is automatically seen as a racist. if this was an african or asian country and someone was talking about wanting to protect it from western influence, who would bat an eyelid?

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:52 (sixteen years ago) link


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