can you spell "pedant" with one d?
;)
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
they're just publishers nbd
― mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Friday, 18 November 2011 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
ha!
― zvookster, Friday, 18 November 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
wait they spelled it 'cancelled', that's ok
― zvookster, Friday, 18 November 2011 04:05 (twelve years ago) link
lol u irish
― mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Friday, 18 November 2011 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
Both are acceptable in Webster's (though "canceled" is listed first).
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2011 04:59 (twelve years ago) link
Man, if Sinker did one on Dragnet or Y, I would buy five copies instantly.
― Thick Gothy (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 18 November 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
Really interested in the Dummy one, although I think I might even be more into reading one about Third at this point.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, November 18, 2011 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
The author participated in that One Week One Band tumblr a week or two ago and tackled all things Portishead, not just Dummy. http://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 18 November 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
are the cancelled projects the writers' or publishers' decisions?
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, 18 November 2011 07:16 (twelve years ago) link
could be either i think. some writers giving up, some writers coming up with stuff the publisher's not convinced by.
― willem, Friday, 18 November 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link
true, true. maybe i should do this. do they accept proposals from no-name jerks from the internet?
Tyler, I hope you're really considering doing it! I know at least two of my friends would definitely buy it. Or I'd buy it for them as a gift. dan selzer would surely buy one so there's five copies secured already - go for it dude! ;-)IIRC, the publisher's open to pitches from anyone.
― willem, Friday, 18 November 2011 07:42 (twelve years ago) link
kind of makes you wonder about their selection procedure. like many others I submitted a proposal which wasn't accepted. I wouldn't have given up nor would (imho) Continuum have been unconvinced by what I would have written. I'm sure many others would have been the same, and yet the slots they could have taken have now gone to waste.
IIRC, the publisher's open to pitches from anyone
there are specific times when proposals are accepted, now is not one of them.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 18 November 2011 07:53 (twelve years ago) link
I said anyone, not anytime ;-)I agree with you re. the selection process - with so many cancellations one could question its quality. Would you care to share the album title you had proposed?
― willem, Friday, 18 November 2011 08:02 (twelve years ago) link
sure, it was a Peter Hammill album, Over. would not have been a best seller, admittedly.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 18 November 2011 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
There's quite a dedicated Hammill following in the Netherlands (admittedly, a small market), so with a bit of adequate marketing it could sell reasonably well I'd say
― willem, Friday, 18 November 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure Italians would buy it, if they still have any money by the time it comes out
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link
I've only got the Abba Gold, 20 Jazz Funk Greats, and Master of Reality ones in this series...what're normally regarded as the best? Fancy putting a few on my Xmas list...
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:35 (twelve years ago) link
i ranked my favorites upthread, i've read a couple since then so i'll add those and do it again:
Led Zeppelin IV by Erik DavisAja by Don BreithauptUse Your Illusion I and II by Eric WeisbardThe Who Sell Out by John DouganIt Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back by Christopher R. WeingartenBorn In The U.S.A. by Geoffrey HimesElectric Ladyland by John PerrySign O' The Times by Michaelangelo MatosArmed Forces by Franklin BrunoLet's Talk About Love: A Journey To The End Of Taste by Carl WilsonExile On Main Street by Bill JanovitzDouble Nickels On The Dime by Michael T. FournierIn Utero by Gillian G. GaarRadio City by Bruce EatonIllmatic by Matthew GasteierLet It Be by Colin Meloy
― quit /stalking/ me 2.0 (some dude), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
like many others I submitted a proposal which wasn't accepted. I wouldn't have given up nor would (imho) Continuum have been unconvinced by what I would have written.
Having had my proposal for a book on Black Vinyl Shoes (and power-pop more generally) rejected a number of years ago--which, ditto, I never would have abandoned and, in my very unhumble opinion, would have been excellent--I'm glad that the secret curse I put on the entire series is finally starting to take effect.
― clemenza, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
They are still publishing books, guys, so it's not like these six or so cancels has affected output (also six cancels from six different writers doesn't seem like a lot to me). Folks get busy, get other better offers, or realize that the project isn't worth the time, I don't know, it doesn't surprise me at all. That said I am bummed that Skiz Fernando's Wu-Tang book isn't ever coming out cuz while his book on Rice & Curry: Sri Lankan Home Cooking sounds interesting it isn't really the same sort of reading.
Either way if your proposal is a good one, resubmit it again.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
that's not how it works, Alex in SF
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry I'm not totally clear on the rules submission (I know they periodically do open calls). Can you not resubmit a tweaked proposal?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
they pretty much only do open calls unless you're Jonathan Letham
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
The Who Sell Out by John Dougan
This was something of a revelation for me. Tremendously illuminating history of UK pirate radio.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
As weird as it looks now, I knew a couple of fellow thirteen-year-olds who bought Roll With It.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link
haha – wrong thread
maybe the right one too, if I pitched this.
holy shit this site is amazing
― Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
what're normally regarded as the best? Fancy putting a few on my Xmas list...
Live At The Apollo is the bestest ime. Disagree with s. dude about Nation Of Millions tbh. If you like 69 Love Songs, that one is great, if you're not into the record it's probably of no interest.
(annoyingly it does keep directing you to a dedicated website for even more, than even on archive.org is nothing but a big imagemap with 90% of the images missing)
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
David Bowie, Low (I've read a dozen)
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 18 November 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
Sabbath, Throbbing Gristle, Eno are my favs (and not just because the authors post here.)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 November 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
The Sabbath one hit me hard. Made my wife read it and, even though she has no use for or familiarity with the band, she was similarly moved.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 18 November 2011 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
Of the dozen or so I've got, the Prince, MBV, Eno, TG, Joni Mitchell & Minutemen ones are all great, the Tribe one is good although people seem a little down on the writing.
I guess I didn't like the U2 one and really couldn't get on with the Radiohead, ditching it 3/4 of the way in.
― sleigh tracks (1933-1969) (MaresNest), Friday, 18 November 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
Per 33 1/3's website:
Unfortunately we are not accepting proposals at the moment. We have a bunch of awesome 33 1/3s lined up for publication in the next two years. Please check back soon.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 18 November 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
Oh also six canceled titles since the series began is really not that bad... I worked for a publisher and there was always a book here or there that fell off the list, for any variety of reasons.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 18 November 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
Sabbath and Celine are the best ones I've read so far but both are, for one reason or another, probably unusual for the series.
Of the straight history/critical analysis ones I've read, Bill Janovitz' one on Exile is terrific, and Philip Shaw's one on Horses has a lot of interesting pre-history (though it goes surprisingly light on the album itself).
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
New call for proposals.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
In the middle of the Tom Waits Swordfishtrombones. A huge amount of conjecture, but somehow the writer seems to make it valid and hugely entertaining.
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
I'd love to read a Let England Shake one.
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
Damn, that's a lot of requrements.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
it is actually... i guess they must get a lot of applications and want to vet only the people who are deadly serious about it. i remember applying a few years ago and it was just something like 1000 words about what you wanted to do.
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, that is quite a few more requirements this time around, particularly the part about how the author is going to market it.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
I was wondering why I wasn't more up for this myself this time and it hit me -- I just came off a stop-start three year project that would be a kind-of equivalent with the Disco Inferno feature in Pitchfork. So in my own way I think I've done my time!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
whenever a call for new proposals comes up i think i should pitch Crazy Rhythms, but I don't think it'd sell all that well! not that i'm really the person to write it, but it sort of seems like that album belongs in this series...i'd read it, anyway.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
I'd read it! I'd consider pitching, but I know the album I'd best be equipped to write about has been submitted and rejected over and over again.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i mean, i can see maybe 2,000 people being excited about a feelies book. guess it would help that there's literally no competition. have these books always been no-advance deals? as someone who has written a (non-music) book w/o advance, it's a little bit of a drag. so far i've made about $10 in royalties.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
Are y'all following Whiney/aero discussing this on Twitter? Very entertaining.
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Friday, 27 January 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
It is entertaining, both have some pretty good points about the whole thing though.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely! Esp. aero's point about publishing getting hit w/what music did and this being the new normal.
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I really can't figure out if I'm Team Aero or Team Whiney at this point, because I definitely felt that kneejerk "what? there'll never be any royalties" when I saw the posting. But this is where things are right now.
Side topic, was Whiney banned again? He's noticably absent from the poll threads.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif
― markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link