haha the 10 mins I saw involved him leaving the band, so I'd say that's a good amount of WHY it sucks!
― Matos W.K., Sunday, 4 January 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
not surprisingly, i want to see this. "stoned to the gills" sounds like par for the course, pettywise. he, willie and snoop could do some kind of cannabis wilburys thing.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 5 January 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
the traveling potbrownies
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 5 January 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link
the kottonmouth kings
― da croupier, Monday, 5 January 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I had the same reaction to the documentary that I did after reading Bill Flanagan's U2 book: it succeeded in reminding me that above average bands can talk GREAT shit when interviewed, which means I'll give their work another try.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 January 2009 03:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I just heard "Insider" for the first time. Good song!
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I just heard "Insider" for the first time.
!!!
Baffled how you missed it what with Stevie and everything. Better than good imho... probably POXworthy and in a catalog like his that's saying something.
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
If the answer to the original thread question revolved solely around how he carried himself in this story, no.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Credit to Shawn Macomber at Decibel for doing some raking over the coals.
This article has got me wondering if Anal Cunt can be connected to The Heartbreakers in three or less degrees.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i ~guess~ i'm beginning to understand why X'gau called TP a "dick" in his Wildflowers review (that coincidentally is the worst piece of writing i think i've ever read by the Dean)
― controlled noise pollution (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I've listened to the bastard more often in the last fourteen months than I ever have, but, well.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
the concert footage at the end of that bogdanovich doc (which i watched on sundance, mostly in ffwd) is hysterical. dude comes off like Ted Nugent wishing he was Van Morrison.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
This bandtoband site thinks 9 degrees is shortest!
Anal Cunt/Scott HullAgoraphobic Nosebleed/James Randall : "Jay Randall"Isis/Aaron TurnerOld Man Gloom/Nate NewtonConverge/Aaron DalbecOnly Crime/Bill StevensonMinuteflag/Mike WattWylde Ratttz/Ron AshetonThe New Order/Scott ThurstonTom Petty And The Heartbreakers
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
from a live review circa Great Wide Open: Forty-five minutes into the show, during a strobe-lit version of "Don't Come Around Here No More," three characters masquerading as Presidents Bush, Reagan and Nixon chased Petty around the stage until he banished them by waving a mammoth peace sign.
sadly this isn't included in the documentary or easily found on youtube
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i remember that. 13 years old at the Inglewood Forum. It was awesome.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
heyheyhey he was born a rebel.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Petty doesn't say anything particularly dickish in the WSJ article and the Decibel post is kind of hostile about totally random stuff (also seems to misinterpret "listened to 169 live takes of 'American Girl' for a live box set" as "took 169 takes to record the studio version of 'American Girl'").
― turkey turkey turkey let's all get basted (some dude), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, Petty seems pretty mild in that interview. The interviewer seems to want to create a Petty vs. Springsteen rivalry, but Petty doesn't really pursue it.
― Yah Kid A (Euler), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
For a few minutes I wondered why I accepted Keef's routine avowals of his band's one-of-a-kindness and not Petty's, but, really, it came down to Petty's hair, and his interviews promoting The Last DJ.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I ask you, would a “rock god” really need to run 169 takes of “American Girl” to get it right, as Petty did according to this article? I’m gonna go ahead and posit probably not.
Uh, that's not what it said, Shawn Macomber of Decibel. It says he listened to 169 different live versions to pick one for the live box set. Anyway, ROCK STAR IN BEING COCKY, OVERCONFIDENT SHOCKER.
xxxp
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I ask you, would “rock gods” really need to run 40 takes of "Start Me Up" to get it right, as the Stones did?
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Also lol at this piece of question-begging: There’s some whining about Petty getting lost in Springsteen’s shadow--as if there were actually a comparison!
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty weak sauce in both articles.
i kinda sympathize with folks who have to deal with the albatross of an endless shitstream of music journos for 30+ years tbqfh.
― ♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
The only otm thing in either article is the bit about petty's fans age/ gender diversity. it's not the case these days, but I always thought it kind of interesting that he was recruiting new fans based on NEW material 20+ years into his career (which I'm guessing dropped off in the mid-late 90s). idk too many mainstream artists who can say that... U2, definitely.Aerosmith? the Stones,i guess. did "the kids" care much about Harlem Shuffle or Steel Wheels?
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
no non-Boomer generation gives a shit about anything the Stones have done since You Start Me Up
― Gimme That Christian Side-hug, that Christian Side-hug (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:sFTJKoLQWZijNM:http://www.theonion.com/content/themes/onion/assets/custom/oscars_2007/harvey_head_big.jpg
― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
well, "You Don't Know How It Feels" = 18 years after Petty's first album, "Start Me Up" = 17 years after the Stones' first album, so hey
― turkey turkey turkey let's all get basted (some dude), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I agree with will, basically, but "Harlem Shuffle" and "Mixed Emotions" actually hit the top five while "You Don't Know How It Feels" peaked in Petty's usual top fifteen resting place.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
hey i was really into "mixed emotions" as a kid
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
though my parents bought me the cassingle for "rock and a hard place" instead. :(
Enjoy the memories:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZGgIWWesd4
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElOXKt0v7-A
by the time tom petty is mick's age here he'll probably be hawking a leadbelly covers album at Future Starbucks
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
the question wasn't whether the artists were still successful on the charts in the later years but rather when the last time was that they were reaching the youth/picking up new fans. lots of artists keep coasting with big hits for eons after they've stopped doing that, especially the Stones.
― turkey turkey turkey let's all get basted (some dude), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I have to admit liking Tom Petty via King of the Hill. Also, Chuck Mangione.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i'd really be surprised if petty has more kids at his shows than the stones do
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, i would *not* be surprised if Tom Petty's concert audience skews younger than the Rolling Stones'. As for who's buying the new records, it's gotta be the same old dudes.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i just figure petty's been aiming for "authentic bump on a log" status so while it may skew younger over all i can't figure he's grabbing the youth vote except for starbucks folks who don't realize he's a bryan adams from florida with no interest in fashion photography.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
He's a weird one to quantify commercially. For most of the eighties Petty seemed more popular than he really was because MTV constantly played his videos; meanwhile his album and single sales consistently sold less than Coog's
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"Mixed Emotions" >>>> "I Won't Back Down"
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the fact that petty has a video vanguard award always flies against his "KEEPIN IT REAL, M'MAN" shtick. Also that he did that arms dealer's daughter's bat mitzvah with 50 cent
xpost oh i can't agree with that
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
arms dealer's daughter's bat mitzvah with 50 centhaha, what?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I have to admit liking Tom Petty via King of the Hill.
^^^this. Lucky is such an awesome character
― Gimme That Christian Side-hug, that Christian Side-hug (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/301105warparty.htm
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
sorry not arms dealer, war profiteer
This weirdly makes me like Tom Petty a little less and 50 cent a little more.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
rappers' amorality is *~endearing~*
― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
lol I wonder if Tom told 50 about how rap isn't "music"
― Gimme That Christian Side-hug, that Christian Side-hug (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
You don't want to read his thots on angel whores with guitars, all of which are collected in Conversations With...
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link