(and hitchens)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:17 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:21 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:23 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:37 (twenty years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 03:30 (twenty years ago) link
("who i want to meet: fewer people. interests: hating people, making enemies"), so i guess thats all quite sweet really, if a little try hard
hes a friend of maura too, is everyone in the world a friend of maura?
― ... (gareth), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 06:00 (twenty years ago) link
I gotta say, I think Ott's stuff withstands these criticisms for the most part. My sense has always been that he's insightful and I think the notion that he's contemptuous of his audience is a red herring. I think he's just deeply invested, and I don't mean in persona or cred or any of that, I mean in music. There's room for disagreement, but the premise of most of these criticisms seems to be that disagreement vitiates the exercise.
Hey, but that's just me. I realize the furor has died down but I'm surprised to see that it once was so ... furious.
― smarty mcsmartyson, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:09 (twenty years ago) link
I'm fairly objective, because ignorant of the rivalries on show here. And I have this to say: Chris Ott comes out on the high ground. The detractors, and there are so many, mainly come over as petty and secretly rather admiring. I think the Pitchfork piece is entertaining. And of course it's idiosyncratic!! Ott deserves his props and can take heart that such a long droopy arsed thread was pushed out in response to his piece. If it was that awful would anyone have bothered?
― mick hall (mick hall), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link
Chris Ott comes out on the high ground.
Chris Ott:
Cut the wolfing pal, I know plenty of people who know and revile your fat, frustrated ass. Let's stop pretending what gets said on the Internet is reality, we both box in the same class. The pseudo-intellectual coddling that goes on around this place is just homoerotic. When will you accept yourselves?
hmmm....
― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Vic (Vic), Thursday, 2 October 2003 03:01 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 October 2003 03:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 2 October 2003 03:17 (twenty years ago) link
what crap.
― mike bott, Thursday, 2 October 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Vic (Vic), Thursday, 2 October 2003 04:59 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2003 05:03 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 2 October 2003 05:10 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link
― twelve, Friday, 10 October 2003 19:41 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 12 October 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 13 October 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 13 October 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
One time I attempted to point out some factual errors and influences he apparently missed in one of his reviews, and he told me that i displayed "a complete lack of knowledge of popular music of the last 40 years". It was pricelessly funny. (Incidentally, in that same review, he went off on a fact-impaired rant about an entire genre and didn't actually say a damn thing about the music on the album in question.)
As for the feature in question: I'm solidly in the camp of "Why Bother?" La, la, la, let's make a list of things I don't like and share it with the whole world! I don't like things, la la la!
This whole "we have more readers than Spin" thing strikes me as pretty funny. As if that was the point. As if that was a measure of quality or success! Jessica Simpson sells more albums than Mecca Normal, does that reflect on the quality of the product?
Pitchfork is increasingly irrelevant, at least in the world of college radio that I inhabit. I read it only for the news. Every colleague I've talked to feels the same way.
― Kevin Erickson, Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 17 October 2003 08:11 (twenty years ago) link
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― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 17 October 2003 08:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:58 (twenty years ago) link
that's ummm....kinda sad really. do you have voodoo dolls of your favorite ilm posters too?
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
you're the one adding comments to a thread that's been pretty much dead for a month, dude.
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
Reclaim? Who took them? Are they gonna get in trouble?
― Clarke B., Monday, 26 January 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Chuck D (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago) link
― andrew s (andrew s), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:42 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Clarke B., Monday, 26 January 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Clarke B., Monday, 26 January 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 26 January 2004 21:00 (twenty years ago) link
Santorum should apologize for anti-gay remarksBy Chris Ott
As a gay man, I don't have a problem with Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa. But I do have a problem with the fact that he caused an ongoing national controversy with his anti-gay remarks, and is either too ignorant or mean-spirited to simply apologize.
http://www.progressive.org/mediaproject03/mpom103.html
― dean! (deangulberry), Monday, 26 January 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 26 January 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 26 January 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link