I actually agreed with a Popjustice article. God not those close minded little trolls.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
This album is great playing on some big headphones. This sounds like a 90s UK album feel to me due to the trip hoppy beats and strings. Also, I know Diet Mt. Dew is old but it's beat is NY boom bap to me. This is a real progression to the Lizzy album.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
'Radio' is the keeper; just flat out fantastic. i can't imagine if you like pop music in any way at all that you wouldn't think it was absolutely incredible.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
I made it to the second paragraph of that article before I began to lose the will to live
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
Sitting on my la laWaiting or my ya yaVideo Games
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
what did happen to driving in cars with boys? does that song even exist anywhere in a full version anymore?
― akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 06:06 (twelve years ago) link
the album is frontloaded with previously leaked/released tracks-- just now getting to the new ones
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
Do i hear212121Vid-e-o ga-ames
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 08:12 (twelve years ago) link
THIS might raise a few ILM eyebrows;http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5983&Itemid=206
PJ had being keeping unusually quiet on the official site. it was worth the wait.
it's the same bullshit from the opposite direction though. i'm SO TIRED of people policing the "alternative" vs "pop" binary as though it means anything at all
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 08:54 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not making a snap judgment about this album yet but
- it is very long- it is very samey- i like her deeper voice far more than when she tries to do the higher kittenish thing (pity she can't actually do the deeper voice judging by SNL, haw)- i guess i like it fine so far
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 09:00 (twelve years ago) link
unnecessarily overproduced in places, some of these strings are just too much/too adele-like
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
Peter's kind of OTM. Not in the sense that there's a pop vs alt binary that needs policing but with the idea that vast numbers of people writing about LDR think there's a pop vs alt binary that needs policing.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link
I never managed to download those alt binaries.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 09:20 (twelve years ago) link
that vast numbers of people writing about LDR think there's a pop vs alt binary that needs policing.
isn't he buying into this binary by fixating on it so much?
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, that's a sense i get from pj quite a lot - pop works Like This and indie works Like That and you have to choose one or the other
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure he's fixating on it, it's more a recognition that the discussion of authenticity has completely overtaken the discussion of the music. There's an element of pop tribalism, as there often is with PJ, but it reads much more strongly to me as send-up of all the people tying themselves in knots over whether they should like her, rather than whether they do like her. The idea that they should let it go and leave the music to the people who are going to enjoy it regardless seems reasonable.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 09:29 (twelve years ago) link
― piscesx
Yeah this is the one that stood out for me too.
I like the album a lot, even the bonus tracks. It reminds me of The Facts Of Life album by Black Box Recorder in a lot of places.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:11 (twelve years ago) link
They're forming in a straight lineThey're goin through a tight windThe kids are losing their minds... Video games
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
Oh Dracula comes from Transylvania Stevie nicks books about kleptomania. Johnny looked out of his bedroom window. And shouted to his mum ... Video Games
― Mark G, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago) link
"This sounds like a 90s UK album feel to me due to the trip hoppy beats and strings."
Totally. And piscesx OTM about Radio. Beyond the singles that and National Anthem are the highlights. Interesting takes on fame and desperation.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:56 (twelve years ago) link
Could have done without the cruddy Rick Nowels filler tracks though. Shows a failure of nerve on Interscope's part when her regular collaborators are so strong.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
PJ is right in that a lot of the criticism of LDR stems from a misunderstanding about how she's pitching herself (or being pitched). If it was clear from the start that she was trying to be a pop star rather than some indie siren the terms of the debate would have been completely different. She still wouldn't be able to sing live though.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
the album sounds a bit like kanye west's mbdtf, in a weird way. who produced thsi? those sampled hip-hop background shouts.
i think this LP so far (listening now) is the epitome of what we can achieve in 2012 insofar the disparity amazing / meaningless
― cuteforce, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
Turns out two of the producers worked on Kanye's Runaway.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
all of her songs have sounded like this to me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pu8HW.gif
― dave cool, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
If it was clear from the start that she was trying to be a pop star rather than some indie siren the terms of the debate would have been completely different
it's that entire binary i want to reject though! any debate that takes it as the starting point - she has to be either/or - is doomed to shitness (as indeed the majority of the LDR debate has been). what do "pop" and "indie" even mean in that context? how do they affect her music?
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
how is anything about her "indie"? this quote says it all:
Grant's management chose her stage name, "I wanted to be a band but the label I was with and the team I had around me absolutely wanted me to be a solo artist. Lana Del Rey came from a series of managers and lawyers over the last 5 years who wanted a name that they thought better fit the sound of the music."
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
5 years of name negotiations with lawyers!
'ihow is anything about her "indie"?'
exactly, she never did. it was just an assumption people took up because of the self-produced video for video games. i think it was a wrong assumption.
― akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
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??? that video didn't just accidentally play to indie sensibilities and audiences, though. i refuse to believe that LDR's marketing has been that entirely guileless. it seems to me that she was originally pitched to blog-happy indie culture as a way of creating a sense of "specialness" and building word of mouth. it worked like a charm, but the inevitable reveal that it was all just savvy brand positioning was bound to bruise overearnest indie hearts.
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
saw this piece of urban folk art on the way to work today http://i.imgur.com/I84Ke.jpg
― ♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
so what if actually she came up with that name all by herself, and instead spent that 5 years badgering trentemoller and bonnie prince billy to work together to producer her album..... what then?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Let's have a toast for douchebagsA toast for the assholesVideo gaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
I don't care what focus group came up w/ her name, I care that most of her songs suck
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
and that I see a darknessand that I see a darknessand that I see a darkness ... video games
― Mark G, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Grab somebody sexyTell them heyVideo gaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
fuck washing a hat hi dere how is it made video games...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
save us Johnny Feveragain, save us Johnny Fevervideo games
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
Ball so hardMotherfuckers wanna find meVideo gaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
They see me rollin' They hatin'Video gaymz
― future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
I fed a fish to a pelican at Frisco bay It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran awayVideo games...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Shaggy's little boys look just like Shaggy And my little boy looks just like daddy video games...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
the album is a masterpiece of marketing, totally stays on gangsta-nancy-sinatra message. she manages to be front-and-center in big productions without evaporating like on SNL, and her schtick works when she isn't violating the show-don't-tell maxim. unfortunately the lyrical clangers are pretty brutal.
carmen carmen staying up til mornin'only 17 but she walks the streets so mean
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
lou reed ghostwrote the whole thing
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
i am the root, i am the tablei am video gaaaaaaames
― markers, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
she's indie in the sense of indie being a cultural code word for dwelling over your low self-esteem + emotional wreckage, but the indie/pop division hasn't meant much since 1991 so
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
she should do a collab album with ghostface killah and destroyer
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
Cuz when the blood begins to flowWhen it shoots up the droppers neckWhen I'm closing in on deathVideo gaaaaaames
― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link