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move over girl talk

mark e, Thursday, 24 July 2008 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I recognised Nate Dogg and "Today's The Day For You To Stop Love" by George Jones, but nothing else.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 24 July 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

surely we can ace it between us...

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 24 July 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

move over girl talk

-- mark e

Um Mark, Osymyso was doing this stuff years before you or I or anyone else knew who Girl Talk was

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

i know - but girl talk gets all the press these days ..

mark e, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

hence why dj food dropped his stuff into this fantastic mashup aural document.

mark e, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt5fAU7tNxY

Bodrick III, Thursday, 24 July 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

eek:

Dear all,

as of today The Quietus is no longer part of the joint venture deal with DrownedinSound and Sky. This obviously has major repercussions for The Quietus in both long and short term. Firstly, we'd ask anyone who has outstanding unpaid invoices to email them over to us within the next 24 hours so that we can make sure you're paid in full for work that has already been published. Secondly, as far as we're concerned this is not the end of The Quietus. With your help we've managed to achieve 40,000 unique users and 157,000 page views a month (that's a lot, for the webshy) since April and, more importantly, published some of the best music journalism that the British bit of the internet has yet seen. We're in discussions with various people to try and find a way of carrying on with The Quietus as an independent and financially viable entity. If you could get in touch with John and I about work already commissioned or with any questions you might have that would be a great help.

Thanks for all your hard work and support thus far,

J0hn D0r4n & Luk3 Turn3r

I wish them well - I've really enjoyed it so far.

CharlieNo4, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

in before LBZC

Just got offed, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

published some of the best music journalism that the British bit of the internet has yet seen.

Could someone link to any of this plz.

Raw Patrick, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe someone had better tell Los Campensinos' and Belle and Sebastian's lawyers about SWells referring to them as p43dos which I'm pretty sure counts as criminal libel...

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

...unless it's true!!?!?!??!?!?!?1/1//1/!

Raw Patrick, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

There's no point now though, Doran's got no money anymore.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

"anymore"

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, yeah.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 August 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Has Swells run so short of targets that he's hitting out at bands' legal representatives now?

CharlieNo4, Monday, 18 August 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

doran stanky rich

Just got offed, Monday, 18 August 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://www.thequietus.com/articles/black-sky-thinking-manchester-so-much-to-answer-for

^^ fucking retarded bullshit

special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 15 September 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree with it to the extent that undergrads are attracted to Manchester because of its music scene, but that's hardly a searing insight is it.

Neil S, Monday, 15 September 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

saying 'the wire' is like 'hill street blues' meets 'the great american novel' (like what, saul bellow? philip roth? not seeing it homes) is just ignorant bullshit.

is it really so bad that undergrads find this city appealing because of its music? no worse than londoners who affect to be interested in the psychogeography of the east end or whatever.

special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 15 September 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

No, it's not bad, you're right. And a lot of crap gets talked about a lot of cities' music scenes, Manchester perhaps only marginally more than anywhere else.

Neil S, Monday, 15 September 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Standard manc 'everything is shit' cynicism, just directed at Manchester not everything outside of Manchester, for once.

Just about sums the piece up, really.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 07:59 (fifteen years ago) link

A whole generation of walking lists, that’s what they’ve become: mention The Stooges or Scott Walker on your mySpace page and you’ve made it.

It’s as if the whole ethos of ‘Rock & Roll’- the whole fuck-what-came-before, daringly primitive and unabashed idiocy of it all is the one thing from the past that nobody can locate: not truly anyway; that, in reality, nobody wants to find.

For like lads huddled round the damp porno mag in the six - week holidays, or girls gawking at Big Brother bodies, the real thing might just be a bit too much to handle and live with: better the surface, the page, the TV, the comfort of make-believe.

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:13 (fifteen years ago) link

haha

your worst fucking nightmare (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously I kind of wish I had the self-confidence to baldly proclaim that there was no contemporary music out there that 'understood' the 'ethos' of 'rock'n'roll' without pause for thought that maybe it might be me not looking hard enough. It would make me more of a dick but I would like to have a holiday in that mindset

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link

For like lads huddled round the damp porno mag in the six - week holidays, it was all for a dare so there was no consumnation involved

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Did anyone watch Massive on BBC3 on Sunday night? This in a nutshell.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link

no. but i meant to.
its still available iplayer - worthy of a look nick ?

mark e, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

It was pretty horrific.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link

ahh, it was one of those that could have gone either way.
shame.

mark e, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link

It seems to me that the Quietus would be a lot better with some synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds).

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

It seems like everytime I visit that site, they have a news story about Morrissey.

A bright pair of newcomers called BROS (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link

It's like Viz and Shakin' Stevens really.

A bright pair of newcomers called BROS (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link

the quietus was called "mildly pompous" in the graun on saturday...

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

That's what you get for using words with more than one syllable in them.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:58 (fifteen years ago) link

they ought to put a donk on it, quoth alan rusbridger.

special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:58 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://thequietus.com/articles/01003-caligari

riiight, so... literacy -- what was *that* all about, eh?

Caught up in a handover, the film needed to make something that would stand out against the cookie cutter films of the day, and thus came forth this expressionist masterpiece. Frame after frame, it delivers slices of artistic masterpieces - from the pained look in the eyes of Francis in the beginning, to the introduction of Holstenwall and Caligari himself, Cesare's final flight over rooftops and through the woods, right through to the end - never missing a beat or forgoing art for content.

i spose no-one reads quietus, but still.

There are lots of rumours circling around Caligari and his cabinet. Siegfried Kracauer wrote From Caligari to Hitler in which he erroneously states that The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari was an allegory for post-war Germany, setting it up for the Nazis to take power

ehhhh kind of

Kracauer didn't bother to see the film for about 25 years before writing the book and couldn't even have read the script which was at the time lost. His theory that a film made in 1919 could somehow be an allegory for events that were still 13 years away has been debunked time and time again. But never the less, the story has stuck.

it's not going to get unstuck by repeating a stupid version of it, is it?

Created as a response to the boring and bland cinema of the day, now, as before, this film can be viewed as it was meant to be, still standing strong against empty special effects laden atrocities that insult us around every bend.

wonder which boring and bland films he's specifically referring to? might have been use ful if he'd named them.

special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 26 January 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Have another slice of artistic masterpiece, dear.

Øystein, Monday, 26 January 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

thing of it is, the film is the 'pet sounds' or 'sgt pepper' of cinema. it's (basically) 'the first art film', the first film to qualify as art, i.e. be recognized as such by people who argue the toss over that kind of thing -- i.e. people who didn't go to the cinema much, it being basically for prole women and kids, but were just about ready to 'take it seriously'.

it qualified because by using weird painted sets the film was abandoning photographic reproduction, and the idea was that just filming something wasn't art, it was at best 'filmed theatre'. no-one at the time wrote about other aspects of filmmaking, like editing; and few people got that, actually, photographing things is not not-art.

i suppose most films made in the US in 1919–20 could be called 'cookie-cutter', but i'm pretty sure also that the german makers of 'caligari' would not have had that at the front of their mind. there was the small matter of the first world war, for example, and the consequent trade embargo with the western allies that continued till after the film was made. wonder how many cookie-cutter films they might have seen...

i am impressed that the rio sold out a screening of this, in a way. it is a terrible film.

the last sentence about special effects is probably going to give me a headache.

special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 26 January 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Interview as PR analysis. And I'm damn entertained.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Really not a big fan of the tactic of leaving all the ums and ers in as an attempt to convey inarticulacy. I'd call it a dick move, in fact

Turbohongro (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

agreed

DavidM, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

thats a pretty cruel article

Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

yea it just seems mean

just sayin, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Guess I'm starting to feel quite uncomfortable with the glee with which these "ooh, look how stupid pop star X" is are RT'd and tossed around. I know I have participated - a lot - in the past. But it is starting to make me uncomfortable.

Strawberry Letter 22 (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Jesus, did Florence fuck the author's boyfriend?

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

too cringeworthy to read, cruelty is not a good look. Neither is encouraging anyone to be more like her from La Roux. (I can be cruel about her because I'm just some lame guy on the internet rather than someone she gave some time to and such.)

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who read this as dismissive of her and cruel towards the PR machine that placed her in the public eye?

the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah redesign is much better (puts away reading glasses)

default damager (lukas), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 18:15 (one week ago) link

The way they announced it on socials — "The Quietus is reborn" or some shit — made me worry they were gonna try to pivot to Unherd/Free Press/The Atlantic-style conservatism, while still covering music. Glad it was just a reskinning of the site and not some kind of "now let us tell you what we really think" nightmare scenario.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 18:45 (one week ago) link

I gladly cannot think of anyone less likely to pivot to any kind of conservatism than John tbh

a based robot like Bender (stevie), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 19:23 (one week ago) link

lol very true

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 21:21 (one week ago) link

or Luke

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 21:21 (one week ago) link

Yes of course Luke as well!

a based robot like Bender (stevie), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 08:37 (one week ago) link

Looks nice but I did a few reviews for them years ago and the first few paras of them don't appear under the new look, which is weird.

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 08:47 (one week ago) link

Worth getting in touch to explain that - I'm sure they have an easy way around that glitch...

a based robot like Bender (stevie), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 09:24 (one week ago) link

if you have the urls we could check the source code and see if there's some css styling/js that is creating that glitch!

fpsa, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:17 (one week ago) link

The way they announced it on socials — "The Quietus is reborn" or some shit — made me worry they were gonna try to pivot to Unherd/Free Press/The Atlantic-style conservatism, while still covering music. Glad it was just a reskinning of the site and not some kind of "now let us tell you what we really think" nightmare scenario.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, May 14, 2024 7:45 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Curious to know why this would make you think that?

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:14 (one week ago) link

The actual language I saw on Twitter was:

The Quietus has regenerated.

Welcome to our new realm of cultural discovery, devilment and debate.

I'm old enough to have seen too many media outlets (especially ones emanating from TERF Island) use language like that to signal a pivot to "iconoclast"/"contrarian" editorial perspectives that boil down to middle-aged right-wing bullshit in a leather jacket. And since my only exchange with the editors, some years ago, was an unpleasant one (they asked me to write a review, but only on the condition that it was negative), I was suspicious.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 16:15 (one week ago) link

You can't Quiet Us, woke moralists

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:58 (one week ago) link

it's called humour, unperson.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:23 (one week ago) link

i am just rather chuffed that the 4 (thomas dolby, age of chance, don letts, and foetus course),
interviews i did for them, have been ported across to the new site.

mark e, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:27 (one week ago) link

"foetus course" : "foetus of course"

mark e, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:27 (one week ago) link

What wine goes with foetus

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:30 (one week ago) link

Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel (Of Cheese)

a based robot like Bender (stevie), Thursday, 16 May 2024 08:21 (one week ago) link

"Culture Countered" is a bit rubbish (not sure if that's always been there though)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 16 May 2024 12:23 (one week ago) link

https://thequietus.com/opinion-and-essays/black-sky-thinking/music-industry-greed-taylor-swift/

Eamonn Forde on the state of the music industry

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 May 2024 16:46 (one week ago) link


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