― trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:31 (twenty years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:34 (twenty years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:35 (twenty years ago) link
Trife I think I still owe you a CD or two!
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:37 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:37 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:39 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay K (Jay K), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:46 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:48 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:49 (twenty years ago) link
― chuy_loco (chuy_loco), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay K (Jay K), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:51 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link
Unbelievable.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 09:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 10:06 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:31 (twenty years ago) link
I am currently (also constantly) at war with my, uh, superior here. He's not my editor, but sort of thinks he is, as he is the chief music writer or whatever. But he doesn't do any editing, and he never sees my copy until he reads it in print (the actual editor, I like, he's a nice guy).But my, uh, supervisor just asked me when the hell am I going to write reviews again, since I've done only two or three since May. I said that I don't get anything to review. Because all the promos get sent to him and all he passes on to me are Klezmer reissues and sub-indie folk releases. And I've reviewed those, and whatever other releases he deems "NEED" to be reviewed the same week that he's reviewing something else that "NEEDS" to be reviewed. I've essentially been his bitch for two years now, and fuckit. I'm three times the writer he'll ever be (and that's not saying much, but, y'know, I AM competent, I've been doing this for 6 years) and I deserve at least the pretense of respect.
Howev, he is in tight with The Brass 'round here, so there isn't even anyone I could talk to about this and sort of say "hey, this guy is being a fuckwad. I still want to write for your paper [=I like the way your cheques clear], but this guy is making it impossible."
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
Tasini v. New York Times.
― Larcole (Nicole), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
Editors that I haven't worked with enough, but who have treated me very well: Matos, Chuck Eddy
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 16:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link
I'd also like to throw a "Yay" at Keith Harris. That is all.
― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link
― toddlburns, Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:34 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:37 (twenty years ago) link
The only trouble I had was realizing I actually had a specific assignment :(
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:43 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:44 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link
trife I really hope "rat-faced leprechaun" was referring to Jermaine Dupri.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
Whoa. Was it a negative review?
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 18:00 (twenty years ago) link
The guy was a really poor editor.
― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
My two cents (also given I've worked as an editor): you should write the email, the kind of revisions and editing you're describing is unprofessional. Without intervening, it's contributing to the erosion of best practice, and feelings of precarity, while understandable, are precisely the sort of thing that allows for the depreciation of standards and care in support of writing, cultural criticism, journalism, or any other professional text-based content.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 4 December 2014 10:07 (nine years ago) link
I mean, it would be one thing if the edits weren't introducing errors into the text, you know?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 4 December 2014 10:13 (nine years ago) link
Totally. I hear what you're saying and am on your side.
To be clear, I do write and ask for typos and other errors to be corrected. And by errors, I don't so much mean factual stuff, but more like "this alteration of my word choice changed the meaning of this sentence slightly enough to where it's not quite right now" or "this edit messed up the subject/verb agreement" ... but still, it's mostly typos added by someone who ... uh ... maybe lacks attention to detail? Or is in too much of a hurry. Or both.
And I pick my battles on some of the more phrasing/readability kinds of things. Partly because I know that's subjective, but moreso because if I write asking for 2 or 3 typos to be fixed, I don't want to feel like I'm high-maintenance by also asking for "bigger" stuff, for lack of a better word.
I really see both sides ... dealwithit.gif and "no, you should deal with it" ... again, appreciate the chance to vent and the feedback. Truly.
― alpine static, Thursday, 4 December 2014 10:50 (nine years ago) link
better to work with an editor you trust at a place with less name recognition than a place that turns your writing into pulp
imo
whiney's advice was better in an era where a strong editorial hand was common & publications had stronger voices but now there's a chance you're being edited by a 22 year old
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 6 April 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link
when i wrote about music - i remember this one editor changed "that's a bold claim" to "them's fightin' words"
annoys me thinking about it and it was about 12 years ago
― Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 April 2015 12:29 (nine years ago) link
lol
― Albanic Kanun Autark (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:00 (nine years ago) link
keepin' that ol' meme alivey
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:02 (nine years ago) link
Haha the writing equivalent of wearing suspenders or a handlebar mustache
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:31 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4S2LvMKMrA
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:34 (nine years ago) link
http://www.clickhole.com/article/man-mission-man-adding-and-thems-facts-end-every-w-2182
― some stupid push back (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link
Thought this thread was about the band
― 龜, Monday, 6 April 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link
the worst kind of editor is one who swaps your phrase in clear English for a cliché.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:48 (nine years ago) link
otm.
― Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link
send the freelance pitch at 5:15 pm Wednesday on the East Coast or wait till Thursday morning?
― alpine static, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link
Thursday morning is my instinct
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
mine too. the pitch is probably too long and has taken too much time, which has landed me here!
― alpine static, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link
a good pitch is sent at 2am and explains why it was sent at 2am
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link
i thought this thread was about the band editors
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link
probably should've revived a different, less aggressively titled thread
― alpine static, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:43 (two years ago) link