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I'm just listening to Armour by Ruff Squad and I am totally hooked. Can anyone else hook me up with shit like this???? My slsk is choking_tara, choking_tara. Thanks

jinxed, Thursday, 26 February 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

i keep hearing loads of total shite hiphop stuff. i blame dj samurai for encouraging them. lewi white's doing it, g-force is doing it, loads of people going that route. the new ones coming through seem to being going down a straight hiphop path. hopefully thats just a blip cos the results aren't promising. the scene does need new blood though.

l'''''', Friday, 27 February 2004 11:29 (twenty years ago) link

P Jam

Producer of N.A.S.T.Y's track "War Talk".

Think he's from North London, maybe something to do with Double O Squad.

tinman, Friday, 27 February 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

i was in jammer's studio the other day and him and lewi are making lots of US-style hip hop inc a cut up of Minnie Ripperton. no more sinogrime (from what i heard)...

martin (martin), Friday, 27 February 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago) link

oh fucking hell

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 February 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

Was it any good?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 18:21 (twenty years ago) link

I feel like I put up with grime. It seems transitional and doesn't excite me at all. Where is a new hardcore-continuum dance genre whose aim is make me dance?!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 February 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

Have patience!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

I hope it's not a long wait like with DnB *ducks*.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 February 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

spencer otm :[

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 February 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

I'd rather be in denial, darlings.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

But ask me again in say, 6 months time.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

holy shit! I just watched ashman's 'how it is' video on tht channel spizzazzz likes. he's like 14 or something!

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 27 February 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

Exactly! And who says grime doesn't have potential? Just wait until his voice breaks and he gets into Marillion. Then he'll really be on some next level shit!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

seriously tho, he looks like a 'little sprites cheat' biggie!

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 27 February 2004 22:56 (twenty years ago) link

oh also it ws a straight-up uk hip-hop tune too.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 27 February 2004 23:03 (twenty years ago) link

straight up UK hip hop? And that's a bad thing?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago) link

haha 7/10

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 27 February 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

Ha Davinche's "Grimey" actually reminds me of Marillion!!!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 27 February 2004 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

now i will cry.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 February 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

adam- I couldn't get to college today so no slsk. but should be there tomorrow (if you did compile some ruff squad stuff, no probs if you haven't etc etc).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 28 February 2004 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

Jess it's that track on the Jammer mix-cd with the keyboard solo. I'm revealing my shameful neo-prog roots here btw.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 28 February 2004 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, it's all turned to shit. come back in a years time when they've realised no ones listening

l'''''''', Saturday, 28 February 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

So, I finally got to hear some more j2k stuff. Interesting. Also:

I love girls, I love sex, I love cash, I love cheques

Is this Streetfighter? It sounds very familiar.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

And I ask again: any sign of the Target mix?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago) link

isn't that the roll deep mystery song, adam?

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

start of the deja 92.3, 23rd dec set has it. 'i love girls, i love sex, i love cash, i love cheques' - dizzee rascal.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, it is on the Deja set. A mystery, you say?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

I was reading one of my yat's old Face magazines from bout last year and it had all these fashion shoots with East Co and Nasty. Nicky Slim Ting had one of those wicked old skool adidas tracksuits on and dee looked dap in purple velour and he had these fucking huge copter shades!

scg, Monday, 1 March 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sure luka id's it up the thread as "i love" or something bt I always call it "the mystery roll deep song". it's a cracker tho.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

hey adam thanks for putting the ruff sqwad mix togther. you er, rock.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

mm target mix is out. i'll give it a listen in a bit and let you know what the grinch thinks

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

is this a CD release and what is "mm"? can it be found on slsk?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago) link

yes, cd. dunno about slsk. mm is me going "mm". bit like "yes" i suppose

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:19 (twenty years ago) link

the cd is sort of in light green and grey which is always how i saw target musik anyway which is pleasing and augurs less aggro i hope. looks a bit like a footlocker version of the global communication cd!

prima_fassy (mwah), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

Zemko, where did you get it from? I checked in with Uptown and Blackmarket and they didn't seem to know what I was talking about.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:23 (twenty years ago) link

uptown. hee hee did u phone this afternoon, i may have witnessed yr call!

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:28 (twenty years ago) link

mm, thanks pf!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago) link

also, is there a more specific title than "target mix"?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

No, I emailed. Gotta watch those long-distance rates.

Spencer - It's called "Aim High".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

From upthread:

due for release Feb 16th (I think)
The below was ripped from the RWD forum - if you want to see the post just type Target in their search function:
" Target's Aim High mixtape preview

Aim High Presents Vol 1 featuring...
GODSGIFT, DONAE’O, D DOUBLE & FOOTSIE, BREEZE, J2K, WOLFPACK
HANNAH, MAYHEM, FLOW DAN, SCRATCHY, CRAZY TITCH, BIGGIE PITBULL, JAMAKABI, WILEY, KANO & DEMION, RIKO, MAXWELL D, PAY AS U GO FEAT. DIZZEE & WILEY, JET LI, BRAZEN, OT FEAT DOGZILLA & SYER.

Production primarily from Target but also TNT, Danny Weed and Geeneus

Will be available from rhythm, uptown, etc... "
AIM HIGH PRESENTS VOLUME 1
1. INTRO – GODSGIFT
2. DONAE1O – PEOPLE DON1T KNOW (DANNY WEED XCLUSIVE)
3. D DOUBLE & FOOTSIE – U DON1T WANNA WAR WITH MAN (TNT)
4. BREEZE – NIGGA PLEASE (TNT XLCLUSIVE)
5. J2K - FREESTYLE (YOUNG GUNZ BEAT)
6. WOLFPACK – WOLF1S ARE LURKING (DANNY WEED)
7. HANNAH – FALLING (TARGET)
8. MAYHEM - MILKSHAKE FREESTYLE
9. FLOW DAN – PASS THAT DUTCH FREESTYLE
10. SCRATCHY – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
11. BREEZE – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
12. CRAZY TITCH – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
13. FLOW DAN – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
14. BIGGIE PITBULL - SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
15. MAYHEM – SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
16. JAMAKABI - SCORPION FREESTYLE (TARGET)
17. WILEY - FREESTYLE (RAH DIGGA BEAT)
18. KANO & DEMION – BRING ARMS (DANNY WEED)
19. RIKO – CHOSEN ONE (TARGET)
20. SCRATCHY – P.E.N.C.I.L BOY (TARGET)
21. BREEZE - FREESTYLE (TARGET)
22. MAXWELL D – MY WOMAN (TARGET)
23. PAY AS U GO FEAT. DIZZEE & WILEY – WATCHING U (TARGET & GEENEUS)
24. JET LI & MAYHEM – TRY (TARGET)
25. GODSGIFT – BUS, BUS, BUS RMX (TARGET)
26. BRAZEN – BUFF GIRLS (TARGET)
27. OT FEAT DOGZILLA & SYER – STD (TARGET)
28. FLOW DAN – SOUNDBOYS (TARGET)
29. BIGGIE PITBULL - FREESTYLE (TARGET)

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

oh no it's lilac! mental. intro first tune. organic tooting then gods gift shouting, ow! oh some africany drums. pleasant. already better than lord of the decks 2, i dont wanna sound like a dick but i didnt like that much. why am i talking like this! ok the intro was this donaeo tune... bad singing. something about 'racist constables', sigh uh huh ok wassup etc

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

No, I only like about half of LOTD 2 also, and mostly stuff I'd heard before like Esco, Doogz, and NASTY.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

actually i can't do this william wiggins style any more zzz. let's have a riff thru. d-ee tune meh. j2k freestyle over 'no better love', good choice 4 this cd, keepin it radox. maiheim = milkshake revocal. modern!! flow dan freestyle ahhhh 'pass that dutch' YECHHHHH >> FFW

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

Vivid.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

i like poor old donaeo's singing better than his MCing and his spliff smoking farmer impressions. it's not that bad. i need to go to the shop again though. did you notice whether box bloody fresh is out yet? it should, but that doesn't mean much. the music on lotd was a bit patchy. i got it cos i wanted the DVD. a good pirate session still smashes anything else. but the big boys don't hardly turn up any more. too busy 'working on their albums' or something. i really like those all star rhythms. the highly flammable one everyones been caning for ages is still the best. the new one is by lethal b. it's got loads of people on it. thats good too. my favourite mc at the moment is ghetto. he's a bit like narstie from NAA in that he won't just spit a little 8 bar, or a 16, he'll go and do about 64 or more, only he's better than narstie cos he;'s from plaistow not brixton. narstie is good though. solo and antix are good too from that crew. um, what else, nothing really. nasty easily the best crew. um, thingy, meridian trying to clash roll deep but honestly, they're really not nearly ready, skepta is big but lyrically they get crushed.

'i love soul, i love trance, i love music slow or fast
but i wish i would have listened in class'
that's the one you're talking about. it's been floating around for about a year now, but still no one seems to have a name for it. thats why it's called the mystery track. i've only ever heard scholar from ruff sqwad play it. brillaint though, obviously.

l'''''''', Monday, 1 March 2004 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

bloody hell yes THANK YOU anything's better than farmer yardie. the rest of the cd is making it better. skippin over scorpion riddim, not setting me alight. wiley freestyle over joe buds 'fire', i kinda underrated this beat, jsut blaze needs some nu ideas tho. bring arms is that mumshouse lyric over understated beat. oh this is 'chosen one', ok this is ok! the er... underbeat is nice and insistent but riko's telling me to stay calm. hm ok riko. do be doo... last set of trax have a nice skulk to them, god's gift one is quite good, best since intro. 'std' is clumsy and crude and lame. flow dan still engaging when he's tense mumbleflowing and still iffy on choruses. ok sorry folks i was sleepy b4 and still ready for bed now, it was ok i certainly aint hating but i prefer the young gunz lp all the same! maybe just grime's not for me anymore. omg i see a giant floating dizzee head and his mouth is opening he's about to speak here it comes now and he says "OH WELL"

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:05 (twenty years ago) link

and yeah that higlhyt flammable thing is kida go

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

the fingers you have used to dial are too fat, please mash the keypad with your palm now

*cough* and yeah ur right that highly flammable megamix is v fun! more of that please defo

prima_fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:10 (twenty years ago) link

I have to say, I've never really liked God's Gift. I thought he ruined Street Beats. Flame me now.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:14 (twenty years ago) link


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