Someone joked to me once that song was about me and now I just can't even listen to it anymore.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Because it makes me sad that he was only joking.
deep cuts off the albums - she got way better at these in the '90s
Cuz she recorded better albums-as-albums.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
"Skin" is such a great great GREAT song, I wish she'd done a full Underworld pastiche album
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
"thief of hearts" matches up really well to something i remember reading in some gossip rag that sandra bernhard had said about madonna, that "she'll steal all your friends." i like to imagine that song as madonna's song about herself from the pov of haters.
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Nice pairing with "Bad Girl," then.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
"thief of hearts" is totally her gayest song imo
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, February 24, 2012 11:58 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
totally! that fucking album, so great.
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
It's an album to aspire to in its entirety.
It's like "the examined life" in 80 minutes.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
"what happens now, i know i don't deserve you / i wonder how i'm ever gonna hurt you" is such an amazing lyric
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
"Words"!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Only one mention of "Human Nature" in this thread, and it's part of a long list!
― Fonz Hour (Eazy), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
i love "human nature" but i get the impression it's a little too on the nose to be an ilx fave, or something
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
I love "Human Nature" too
tbh the adoration of Erotica baffles me
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
You know what's a lovely little thing? "Love Tried to Welcome Me."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
Really? Straight men not getting it doesn't baffle me in the slightest.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
I have to add "The Power of Goodbye" to my list. Lovely.
― thinveneer, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
One day I was looking at the liner notes for Bedtime Stories that I saw that Dallas Austin produced/co-wrote "Human Nature". He also did "Motownphilly," and there's some similarity in the doo-wop-ish background vocals in the "Human Nature" chorus.
― Fonz Hour (Eazy), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
and TLC!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think anyone is surprised that Dallas Austin did songs for TLC
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
"love tried to welcome me" is some dark dark bleakness wrapped up in soft seductive sade-soul
"human nature" is amazing, yes - that bassline
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, he was one of the hottest R&B producers in the mid nineties.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
although I am surprised that apparently Dallas Austin worked with Fishbone?????
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
erotica is probably her most consistent album no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
her most consistent album is either True Blue or Ray of Light
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, Erotica is her most consistent album. That's for better for some and for worse for others.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
Erotica is her most consistently disappointing album
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
BOOM
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Words spoken out of hate.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
they cut like a knifecut into my life
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
lol i like the way that song sounds, at least
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
Please take them all back
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^
Erotica is def. her most consistent album. I barely ever listen to Ray of Light anymore so maybe i'm being a bit unfair on it but in my head it seems so washed-out and anxious to please by comparison.
POXXV:
Deeper & DeeperBad GirlLucky StarInto The GrooveTake A BowVogueLike A PrayerOpen Your HeartJustify My LoveBurning UpGet TogetherLike A VirginWaitingEverybodyLive To TellDie Another DayLove Tried To Welcome MePapa Don't PreachHung UpSomething To RememberFrozenBorderlineHung UpEroticaSecret
― Tim F, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
I listened to ROL last Tuesday and had trouble accepting her pompous singing this time 'round.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that too.
― Tim F, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
ROL gets either overrated or underrated i find - when i'm in the mood for it it's really very satisfying, particularly the aqueous jacuzzi ballads like "to have and not to hold" (where her smoother vocal timbre really works) or the ones with massive banging beats like "skin" or "sky fits heaven" which overpower how pompous she is.
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i wouldn't say it's her BEST album b/c the high points are, in general, quite as high as on some other albums. but it is consistently engrossing.
i think it sold really poorly compared to her prior records right?
and yeah once she really started enunciating i find her records harder to take.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 24 February 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
i was talking about erotica.
lots of xposts.
I have a soft spot for many Madonna tracks, but I'd definitely say that 'Like A Prayer' was my favourite of hers. It's that fucking bassline, man!
― Turrican, Saturday, 25 February 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
ROL? It's her best-selling US album post-LAP.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
It did everything she wanted, and it happened to coincide with the golden age of Soundscan sales: not only is it her best-selling album of the last twenty years but it's now regarded as an aesthetic touchstone.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
'Ray Of Light' was a massive success here in the UK too, and if I remember it marked the point where a lot of indie kids started taking her seriously, because of the link with William Orbit.
― Turrican, Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
if I remember it marked the point where a lot of indie kids started taking her seriously
I was in grad school, and it was the first Madonna studio album (to be fair they owned the two comps) my friends bought and regarded as a Serious Recording.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
how young are you people?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link
young enough to have digested every Billboard of the last sixty years.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
Wasn't it also the first (and last?) Madonna album to get a Grammy nod?
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Saturday, 25 February 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
The vocals w/added harmonies in the last chorus of "into the groove" are strangely powerful. creates a more sensual tone.
― brimstead, Saturday, 24 August 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
think this 12" single from 1988 was more than worthy of a mention
Madonna - Spotlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSbgcr4fvk0
― Campari G&T, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link
a bunch of writing on a bunch of Madonna singles (I chose "Live to Tell" and "Papa Don't Preach" but almost went for "Express Yourself")
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Sunday, 12 August 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link