Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

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"did we mention that she drinks beer?"

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish i could like big & rich. gretchen wilson is pretty cool.

― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

So.

*Big & Rich's Super Galactic Fun Pack* -- second best album of the decade?? (Just kidding. I think. But EP/DVD Dualdisc of the Decade for sure. Even Lil Jon himself might have to admit that.)

― chuck, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

oops. Fan Pack, not Fun Pack. (Piracy Fans Terrorism.)

― chuck, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

btw perhaps the most revealing moments of the dvd are the parts where (1) john rich says (i'm paraphrasing, so check dvd for actual words) that big kenny "keeps trying to touch me, and i let him" and (2) when big kenny says (i'm paraphrasing here too, so ditto) that when they first met they were like "two bird dogs sniffing each other butts, and we didn't know whether to fight or fu......um, chase down some lady bird dogs." wow. they do some crazy new songs as well, by the way (both on the EP and on the DVD itself). and john rich reveals that he knows who twista and busta rhymes are, and the footage of north carolina and wyoming is quite beautiful and spectacular indeed.

― chuck, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice. Is this out or just a promo so far?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link

it's been on the billboard hot 100 and the country album chart for two weeks now, so i assume it's in stores, ned.

― chuck, Friday, 19 November 2004 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Works for me!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

amazon isn't carrying it (yet, i guess). the only place i've seen it is on the b&r site...

― john'n'chicago, Saturday, 20 November 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

TS: Big & Rich vs. Pontius and Steve-O

I still haven't fallen in love with the album (though I like a few of the singles), but they sound like they'd be a complete fucking blast to hang out with, and sometimes that's more important.

― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

album of the decade for those who find kid rock to be not quite cartoon-y enough.

― billy mcbob, Saturday, 20 November 2004 07:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm still a holdout on actually checking out the album, but "Holy Water" is helping to win me over. the violin melody on the outro is beautiful.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 20 November 2004 08:16 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Fuck Big & Rich.

they are crap, ive heard the album, fuck them, fuck their accountants, fuck that fat Gretchen Wilson as well.

this is one issue im totally fine with being an out of touch snob on.

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

what does gretchen wilson's weight have to do with anything?

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Boy oh boy, do I ever hate Big & Rich. I mean, I would really like to enjoy it even as much as I like Shania Twain and Faith Hill (i.e. semi-ironically), but it simply cannot be done.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link

yawn

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:13 (nineteen years ago) link

i still don't really get these guys (nb i haven't heard the album yet). are they supposed to be like the barenaked ladies of country music?

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Close. They started out as a zydeco group- Grosse et Richard.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:40 (nineteen years ago) link

and prior to that they played Breton music as Grand Et Riche

― mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 07:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"the barenaked ladies of country music?"

BINGO!

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I put it to you that the Barenaked Ladies couldn't actually find a groove if their lives depended on it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish they'd find one and ride off into the sunset.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

The verdict's still out on B&R around my house. I thought JBR's comparison was apt re:joke content and rhyme execution. Now I must go to wokr before somebody accuses me of being tin-eared & humorless.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I can barely remember whatever the jokes were, but I liked the riffs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

what was wrong with the gourds?

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

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I like the riffs, too, though they seem more big-rock 80s AOR than country (different discussion). Something about the singing/"rapping" and overall tone holds me back from loving B&R. But there's something compelling about 'em, so I keep listening.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Big & Rich: first pazz/jop poll favorite to be influenced by music on beer commercials!

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Dom told me I would hate Big & Rich with a passion and so I have avoided them at all costs. I trust him implicitly.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I clicked on the link for don allred's two cents but all I got was the main page. I searched on "allred" and didn't find it either. I did find something intriguingly titled Bear Tamer's Music Ladies, or so I thought.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

"Big & Rich: first pazz/jop poll favorite to be influenced by music on beer commercials! "

This made me laugh, but wait, what about Andrew WK? (And maybe "Get Low" and "Whoomp There it Is"? And probably a hundred other things.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I was about to say, it all intertwines somehow. (See also Steve Winwood's "Roll With It," which appeared as a beer ad soundtrack simultaneously and had a video that gained controversy because some judged it clear that Winwood was drinking a Michelob in the video though no label appeared on the bottle.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

" that fat Gretchen Wilson"

This made me laugh harder, though, I have to admit. I won't name names, but some critic already sent in a Pazz and Jop comment to the affect that maybe Gretchen has a great voice, but she'd be better off singing with the Wilson singers than singing country. (Hey, they have the same last name! And one of them is fat too! {Though I don't think Gretchen is, and Fonda didn't have a motor in the back of her Honda etc.) Plus Heart put out a really good album this year! Not that the P&J voter said that, I don't think.) Which I guess = lovebug's "they seem more big-rock 80s AOR than country" above. Though of course I'm not sure why that is supposed to be a bad thing (or why big-rock 80s AOR/Heart and country shouldn't be allowed to overlap, as they long have in both directions. Or why, if somebody thinks B&R and Gretchen are "not country", they can't *love* them as not-country; i.e., since when is country automatically better than not-country anyway? But I am having too much fun repeating myself and will hereby stop now.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

For some reason the beer talk is reminding me of a spurious genre a friend invented some years back to talk about music he hated:

'country-fried beer rock'

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I love to watch Chuck intellectualize over middle of the road poop

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

You're a stranger in these parts, aren't you, son? Why don't I buy you a drink and then escort you to the local Greyhound station?There's an outbound dog at 3PM.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

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This talk of beer commercial music reminds me of a phrase I picked up from advertising agent licensing folks: "truckrock"

Apparently it refers to the kind of spray on powerchord macho jinglemusic used in pick up truck ads.

Remember: "Get on your Pontiac and RIDE! Pontiac Ride!"

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry...i didn't realize comments were limited to pretentious writer whores...my apologies

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

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― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I was just testing you, son. You seem to have the right stuff to me. Do you remember that scene in the Alaska bar when they went to fetch the Wolverine in X-Men? Well, we got ourselves one of those bustups right here tonight, and if you can stay in the cage long enough against all comers, you might take home a nice little purse for yourself.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

space is the place all up in yo face!

― blount, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I was reading the "Why I Love Country Music" thread yesterday and found this entry from Mr. Raggett where he gets all Miss Cleo on our asses and predicts the rise of B&R:

Bubba Sparxx may have something, but that Daft Punk thread got me thinking that we need some sort of hip hop space cowboy for the new millennium -- and I'm not talking about Steve Miller, I'm talking about twang with disco squelch with beats that fucks everything up.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), December 5th, 2003

*ques X-Files theme*

― darin (darin), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

you'll hear more hip-hop lingo in a half-hour of southern sports tonight than the whole b$r oeuvre so i don't know why people make such a big deal out of that on the b$r record.

― blount, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe because b&r have a better sense of rhythm than most sportscasters?

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

there's gold in the "rapneck" demographic, I tell ya . . .

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Big and Rich actually remind me a lot of Roxette for some reason.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

that's the first thing anyone's said that's actually made me want to hear the record.

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Roxette, but I don't hear the B&R comparison. Please explain!!

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

something about their NYE performance on that Strokey McGee countdown reminded me of them. The rhythm was "Joyride"-ish.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i dont like how they let the midget on stage the whole time but cowboy troy has to sit backstage most of the show

― chaki in charge (chaki), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

That Ned quote...

...actually made Phoenix's "Funky Squaredance" spring to mind when I first read it (which I like much more than anything by B&R which I still don't understand).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

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