― chuck, Friday, 14 March 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 14 March 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 14 March 2003 02:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
YES.
― original bgm, Friday, 14 March 2003 02:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― original bgm, Friday, 14 March 2003 02:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 14 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― original bgm, Friday, 14 March 2003 02:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― edde, Friday, 14 March 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
Can somebody please explain Rocket From the Crypt to me? They're so generic.
Well, I can't add anything to this beyond noting that you're right on the one hand (they have a format they follow and all, they know their history perhaps to a fault, etc.). But I think they put it all together with style, visual and, I'd say, otherwise. Sure that's a generic/lazy description but sometimes that's the extra kick that you need -- and ultimately they might be a band where the whole is greater than its various parts (Speedo's rasp -- I admit I don't quite get the minstrel comparison -- and entertaining stage banter being two of the most solid).
And hell, I dance to 'em. If asked why, well, because, that what they make me do! No more rationale needed. :-)
Yank Crime is pretty spectacular, yes. You don't so much dance to that as wind yourself up tight and then jerk or scream along.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 17:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
I have no idea if RFTC are consciously avoiding being "Too Rockabilly or Too Garage or Too Punk or Too Boogie or Too Ska," but maybe they're trying to be, to paraphrase F. Scott Fitzgerald, a "well-rounded" band, which is ultimately way too limiting. Oh, and their fans do get excited about them, obviously, as the whole Rocket tattoo deal shows.
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
John's motif of "taking the rock n' roll ride to the edge of explosion only to take a step back when it beckons" has been a cursing and blessing, I think. We've gotten a lot of different side projects and a lot of great music out of it, I believe. (Why does no one mention the Sultans or Back Off Cupids?), but perhaps sacrificing making that one little dent that no one will ever forget?
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 14 March 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
Why Chuck doesn't like RFTC: 1)he don't wanna 2)bassist Petey X is indeed the least effective musician in the band, a big qualm for Mr. Wiggle Hips 3)their rhythm is closer to (in Chuck's Stairway words) Big Black's "jerking" of the beat than most garage rock. It's headbanging music, up-down-up-down. Like Ned, I have to MOVE to it when I hear it, usually by headbanging, pogoing, air-guitaring or pummeling my legs with my fists (leg-drumming?). But I can't really twist to it. But I can't twist to White Light/White Heat either, and he claims to like that...
Easy-way-out-don't-know-what-they're-talking-about critics oft mention bands that LOOK like RFTC when detailing the band's "influences," which is likely to piss off a real hep-cat-the-groove's-where-it's-at guy like Chuck. If the band didn't dress like a soul revue, he'd probably leave 'em alone (in fact, he might like 'em more if they looked like Die Kruezen but had a horn section, just cuz it'd be so perverse). I appreciate Chuck pointing out the lack of BOTTOM in RFTC's stuff, but I think he misses how much they've got on the TOP. There's treble hooks flying ALL OVER THE PLACE in their music, and Camp X-Ray, like Yancey said, is where they finally get as much meat in their lyrics as in their sound (though "Outsider" is painfully incoherent). Though I still feel Chuck would also give them a break if their lyrics were sex-slobber or life-gets-you-thoughtfully-cranky Dag Nasty/Everclear stuff, you know, something he could IDENTIFY with. RFTC may just be too inchoate-or-welladjusted for him p.o.v. wise.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
And I did some J. Geils vs. RFTC spinning yesterday. Freeze-Frame holds up ("Centerfold" is a fine example of how UNSTOPPABLE RFTC would be if the rhythm section was swingier - THE BEST band rather than one of the best), but RFTC wipes the floor with the Atlantic best ofs. Punk inspired, well, BOTH bands to tighten up. And your unproven claims of minstrelsy seem pretty weird coming from a guy who'd rather have us listening to Peter "Whammer Jammer" Wolf.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah, let me second all that. Been a denizen of the RFTC mailing list that Donut Bitch runs for years now, and they're a fine and dandy bunch over there, passionate about their music (including a lot of the bands that Chuck likes in comparison!) and friendly as hell at the shows even while everything's going nuts. Never had a mosher land on my head at one of them, for a start.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 March 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 15 March 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 16 March 2003 12:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 16 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Sunday, 16 March 2003 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 16 March 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 October 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, what he said! (He said while listening to "No Hands.")
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 February 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― circa1916, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― axelnormand, Thursday, 5 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike Dixn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chaucer Arafat, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
HOT SNAKES
― David R., Friday, 15 August 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
do people like night marchers and/ or obits?
― mizzell, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link
No
― Steve Shasta, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link
without the bold red font and the exclamation points it just feels like something is lacking.
― chicago kevin, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
so i just learned that rick froberg made his national television debut with the obits on the jimmy fallon program two weeks ago. they played "fake kinkade" and it was kinda boring. then jimmy fallon came out and called them "my brothers" (cause he's from brooklyn, i guess).
― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I think "LAX" pops into my head on a weekly basis
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
the LA rocker hotshots that San Diegan rockers feel intrinsically inferior to
Who are you referring to?
― timellison, Monday, 12 March 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
xp i was at that show!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 12 March 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link
I am referring specifically to none other than Tracii Guns, who owes me $700 btw.
i was at that show!
I love the small world in which we live.
― del griffith, Monday, 12 March 2018 02:00 (six years ago) link
I'll take it you don't have a serious answer Del
― timellison, Monday, 12 March 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link
that's seriously how he spells his name - look it up
I woulda said Rikk Agnew, but he's Orange County.
― del griffith, Monday, 12 March 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link
You from LA, Del? Just talking trash?
― timellison, Monday, 12 March 2018 03:48 (six years ago) link
The idea of John Reis feeling inferior to Traci Guns is the most hilarious notion.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 12 March 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link
"Hot Snacks" is a great band name
― albvivertine, Monday, 12 March 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
i hear jericho sirens
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
Sir, I grew up in El Cajon, California (maybe you've heard of it it? it's rough) and I currently live in San Diego, California.
I just wanted to say, as a result of my birthright I've been a huge John/RFTC fan since my formative teenage years, but it wasn't til my early twenties, when I really gave a good hard thought about music, that I realized I really fucking loved the Hot Snakes.
Mostly this love was expressed through my consistent consumption of everything Reis/Froberg-related: RFTC albums and tshirts ordered online, all-ages tix to Rocket shows at the now-defunct Empire Club in North Park or Street Scene gigs by the C Street trolley stop downtown, appearances at mid-afternoon all-ages shows at Off the Record (where I'd show up scared of being beaten up by older, more drunken, more tattoed bros, for some reason).
I'm already weirding myself out just posting this post, but I'll save it the unsavory middle. It mostly involves absolutely loving the goddamn shit out of Automatic Midnight and Suicide Invoice. Who wouldn't? Idiots, that's who. People whose blood has never pumped at the same pace, for the same reasons. But anyway, the point I'm making is, has anyone outside the digest-it-and-forget-it world of print media bothered to take a second sonic glimpse at this Death Camp Fantasy? Eh? Really listened to it in 2019? Because yeah, the album itself is not the best thing they've ever done, but fuckin' a, have you listened to this song?!
Here's the album version (for curious people with weak blood):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCH9zKFw954
Here's a live version (for people with blood rich with disinfectants, who currently are NOT inconvenienced). You'll notice the beauty of this particular song, based on how they all start to play it. First of all, Jason Kourkounis starts the song. This was the guy who played on Automatic Midnight, not Suicide Invoice. I'm not good at describing the visceral differences you get from different drummers, but I think it makes a difference. I've watched live videos and this guy does something with crossing his arms during cymbal contact that simply makes it better, I don't know. He just, rules. Anyway, one of the many reasons this song absolutely kicks ass is the fact that it's just Jason and John doing drums and guitar. For several bars, like a minute. Rick sings over it, cause he's just that kind of guy, of course he does. Then, at precisely the right time for this sort of song, Gar comes in. Of COURSE he does. "Have I been preyed upon / have I been prayed upon?" is sung before Rick lets the single-coil treble attack into the mix, into what I guess could be called the third pre-chorus? The part before the Big Chorus? I don't know what you call it at this point. It's just the point before the Big Chorus. I'll let it Rick take it from here. By the way, his lyrics are my favorite for those designed to be matched with guitar parts this loud. I loved every word of Drive Like Jehu, but this is some special stuff:
(the moment the bass kicks in for the first "have I been preyed upon"? the point of having fucking ears)
Death, you read the BibleDeath, you read the leaseAssuming your survivalDepends on things like theseHave I been preyed uponBy Darwin, Disney and Freud?You know I rest it on the scaffold, babyI look for greetings to avoidHave I been preyed upon?Have I been prayed upon?I feel preemptive forces Standing in my wayHere it comesMy death camp fantasy
Have I been preyed uponBy Darwin, Disney and Freud?
You know I rest it on the scaffold, babyI look for greetings to avoid
Have I been preyed upon?Have I been prayed upon?
I feel preemptive forces Standing in my wayHere it comesMy death camp fantasy
― del griffith, Monday, 29 July 2019 02:33 (five years ago) link
best live version I could find!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbeg8KK4tig
― del griffith, Monday, 29 July 2019 02:34 (five years ago) link
good post, del
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 29 July 2019 10:47 (five years ago) link
Couple new tracks and a new album on the way
https://hotsnakes.bandcamp.com/track/i-shall-be-freehttps://hotsnakes.bandcamp.com/track/checkmate
― Dinsdale, Sunday, 16 February 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link
oh that Poison Ivy/RS Howard guitar always works for me
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 17 February 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1nvjW-7DM
here's the bag digest of what John, Rick, and Jason (Gar had something more important to do) slipped into their bags when they visited the now-closed am03ba h0llyw00d in early M@rch.
― the burrito that defined a generation, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link
Stoked that Reis gave such gushing love to Bo Diddley. I love Bo and love when other people love Bo.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link
when rick pulled out those bert records i was like oh man you are in for a treat
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:24 (four years ago) link
one of the greatest bands of the 21st century. this is one of those groups where i absolutely remember being stopped dead in my tracks the first time i heard them ("Our Work Fills the Pews", on KXLU.)
― omar little, Friday, 8 March 2024 17:47 (six months ago) link