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ted maul?

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

would you rather see dick cheney have a sitdown with seymour hersh or fred barnes? is the worth of journalism measured in who can slurpslurp the loudest?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

i cant believe im being accused of being a careerist compared to NICK SYLVESTER! do inane questions & smarmy self-obsession count as hard-hitting journalism now?? believe it or not sometimes ppl actually say interesting things when you treat them respectfully instead of mocking them outright

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

and, as many other ppl have noted, making up quotes

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm with ethan, I've never understood the mindset that sez "the only good interviewer is a TOUGH interviewer" (at least where music writing's concerned) - though mark s has interesting things to say on this subject w/r/t john lydon & possibly others

anyhow ethan isn't advocating sycophancy & doesn't practice it, he rather seems to take a highly controversial "make your interview subjects comfortable" stance & that hardly amounts to blowing yr subjects

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

really the only groupie/publicists i see in this thread are the sylvester fan club pretending its just all a big misunderstanding/genius move on the part of the new messiah

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

blount claims everyone is a careerist for chrissakes. i guess miccio was a careerist in the end but it turned out to be propane and propane accessories.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

and most of my interviews in the past year & a half are for local mags like crunk, get'em, etc w/ no online content or distribution outside the south, i recognize my early pieces come off kinda charlie & the choc factory-ish but i think ive gotten alot better w/ this shit - oddly enough for a cynical opportunist i havent been posting them online or pitching them to village voice tho!

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

ethan, where can i read your stuff?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

you should do a blog for get'em

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

you can interview fall out boy and hawthorne heights and make up quotes

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

lol @ reverse racism

im going to lunch now

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

PDRANK: KANYE CALLED YOU "THE WHITE CRUNK." DO YOU LIKE WHITE CHOCOLATE?

ALEX KAPRANOS: YES, WE LIKE WHITE CHOCOLATE.

PDRANK: HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A SLAVE?

ALEX KAPRANOS: ...

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i have a Black Crunky chocolate bar from Japan.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/43/f6/7bea8f2c497ec8bbc30216620d38c155.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

PDRANK: DO YOU LIKE "BLACK CRUNKY" CHOCOLATE BAR FROM JAPAN?

FRITZ WOLLNER: YES I LIKE BLACK CRUNKY CHOCOLATE BAR FROM JAPAN.

PDRANK: DO YOU ALSO ENJOY ANAL SEX?

FRITZ WOLLNER: ...

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

haha i am beginning to understand what the appeal of this was for nick

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

for the record, i never said "...". Jess is suspended.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i think blount's just suffering from guilt by association

― ant@work, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

otm.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Artists will be more likely to share exceptional/suprising/interesting things with you if you make them comfortable.

When an artist tells you, "I didn't think I'd ever talk about that," it's a lot more rewarding than being on the offensive end of some some gonzo gotcha

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah nick's much loved "...." response offers nothing journalistically

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

aidin vaziri pulls off both, which is pretty impressive, which is why you shouldn't compare him to nick

― ant@work, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

hack: 'i luv writing fawning puffpieces about you'

subject: 'i luv it when you write fawning puffpieces about me'

hack: 'are you comfortable?'

subject: 'a little lower'

hack: 'how's that?'

subject: 'yeah that's it, that's the spot'

hack: 'when's yr new record drop?'

WHAT GREAT 'JOURNALISM'

to be fair it is better than 'i saw hipster in a gym'.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

o vaziri's MUCH better in every way than nick, just that that seemed very much the style he was biting. definitely preferable to the ethan/suzy school of questioning by which definition stewardesses and waiters count as hardhitting journalists.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20031015/w2.jpg

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i have no idea why you're pulling this bullshit with ethan, blount

― ant@work, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

after all this time on ilm?

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

This reminds me of the time my sea monkeys started eating each other.

― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"Your new album sucks! I've never been so bored in my life!"
"Umm...sorry..."
"Yeah what the fuck were you thinking?"
"I don't...who the fuck are you?"
"I'm a rock journalist, motherfucker! Who are YOU?"

WHAT GREAT 'JOURNALISM'

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

anyhow i'm late for lab - if any of yall see a hipster in a gym or an 'artist' with something interesting to say lemme know.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

ilm: really just brine shrimp

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicole wins, as usual.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

HEY PEOPLE LET'S SEE HOW LONG WE CAN KEEP NICK SYLVESTER'S NAME AT THE TOP OF THE NEW ANSWERS PAGE

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

jesus, it seems to me that ethan isn't advocating much more than knowing the names of the people you're speaking to and treating them with some basic courtesy... how this is sycophantic or a "school of journalism" is beyond me.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i am not attacking ethan's sense of journalistic ethics, just ethan

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

it's what we do

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.lessonsforsuccess.com/images/book2.gif

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

actually one reason why this grates me so much & why, like i said above, i think itd be more ok with somebody like kanye who we already know way too much about the opinions (and self-opinions) of -- rappers like t-pain & dude from franchize who nick doesnt care the name of, your average vvoice reader doesnt even know who they are, and bullying them with stupid questions isnt some long-awaited beatdown, in that context its closer to a reporter being abusive to random bystanders during a man-on-the-street bit. rappers have got interesting shit to say if you let them, instead of going for as many worthless "..." responses as possible!! try reading ozone mag, murder dog, or even vibe (for the great stuff after the opening letters, where you learn interesting shit about rap & r&b stars thru actual professional interviewing - even if its "fluff" like bonecrusher's fried fish essentials or remy ma's favorite movies or whatever - instead of just hearing all the unfunny, self-absorbed inanities of the interviewer), they have 2 & 3 page interviews with no-name rappers where you actually get to hear their voice & gain insight into the musician youre presumably reading music writing for. picking on 1 hit wonders w/ pointless questions is talentless hack bullshit, not the subversive idol-shattering that jess & blount seem to think it is

xpost much luv jess

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really know how i've been drafted into the nick sylvester legal defense fund, especially as someone who spends waaaaay too many hours in a week transcribing interview tapes for accuracy

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Would someone bring me up to date on one fact that doesn't seem to translate upthread?

I want to know whether the VV commissioned a piece from NS (his choice of topic), or this particular type of story.

Thanks.

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

what?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the actual commission was for a piece on his choice of topic, with the criteria that it be A) fluffy and B) untrue.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i understand the urge though. at some point you just get sick of hearing yourself go "ummm" and "uh" 900 times in 45 minutes.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Dom has turned into that creature from The Hidden and is now going from ilxor to ilxor, inhabiting their bodies and posting under their names

― lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost
there is nothing more painful than listening to yourself do a bad interview

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

haha yeah it took me a long time to realize i could compress statements where dude goes 'well....... actually.... uh.. we were.... ummmmm.... just tryna..... ya know.... put..... some music... uh... out for the streets.... ya know...'

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, that is the worst. (xp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost w/ fritz haha yeah especially when you hear yourself harping on & on & on about some silly pet question the rapper dont even care about answering

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really know how i've been drafted into the nick sylvester legal defense fund, especially as someone who spends waaaaay too many hours in a week transcribing interview tapes for accuracy

i assumed it might be guilt by association with you too, jess. though thankfully you aren't insane.

― ant@work, Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

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