the 4 biggest Bowie staples on US classic rock radio: Under Pressure, Fame, Space Oddity and Changes
― some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Growing up, I heard Ziggy much more than Changes on classic rock radio. Under Pressure was too current to be classic rock.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
well yeah i'm going off recent stats. i'm sure if i had more complete stats there'd be several ziggy songs in the top 10 bowie songs
― some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
"All The Young Dudes" got a ton of play, doesn't seem like a whole other world away from that. "Get It On (Bang a Gong)" obviously got played a bunch. Not much high camp, but still, I NEVER heard this song until I heard the album proper, and it just seems like a song that would have fit the format of a bunch of stations from my youth.
Seems like a proto-"Changes" sonically, and the lyrics wouldn't have kept it off the air. I guess Bowie just had too many other hits to make room for a song like this. "Heroes" didn't even get much play (might hear it once a year or something), so I guess it isn't surprising, just seems like it could have gotten a spin once in a while. I might have gotten into Bowie earlier if the radio stretched the catalog a bit more.
― grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
The local "good time oldies" -- as opposed to "classic rock" -- station is one of my presets when I'm out and about, and "Fame," "Let's Dance" and "Under Pressure" are the only things I can recall hearing in the last few years. Heard "Fame" just last week in fact.
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, that makes sense. Classic Rock radio is a weird beast that rarely evolves.
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― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
...and the lyrics wouldn't have kept it off the air.
American stations in the 70s might have been skittish about the "bitch" line.
It's weird how "Who Are You" can have the f-word, The Stones can make a dead man cum and Jackie can give head in "Walk on the Wild Side", but other songs with lyrics less scary can't pass.
― pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
"good time oldies" -- as opposed to "classic rock"
A paper-thin distinction in US radio programming that has always fascinated me. xp to myself
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
They used to play Rebel Rebel and Young Americans all the time on classic rock radio. Station To Station was where they got off the proverbial Bowie bus.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
It surprises me that 'Be My Wife' didn't really get anywhere as a single, because to me it's the one track on Low that stands out as obvious single.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican)
I've always wondered this too. It's such a catchy song, I've no idea why it wasn't as big as Sound & Vision. It was my number one and could be in my top ten songs of all time. That bass line in the chorus is unbeatable.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit, I'm late for the next one!
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
TIME FOR THE TOP 10
10. "Rebel Rebel" (from Diamond Dogs) - 638 points/27 votes/0 first-place votes
Album: http://youtu.be/W4SLXaF-lIcLater with Jools Holland, 2002: http://youtu.be/7HyWXftUiWc
The classic rock station I used to work for was the same way:
Young AmericansChangesSpace OddityRebel RebelZiggy StardustSuffragette CityGolden Years
maybe Fame, I can't remember.
― pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
Always remember the "Big Jet Airliner" song (or whatever it's called) by Steve Miller had the word "shit" in it, the Who song being the other big swear-word song I remember as a kid. Rolling Stone's "Bitch" certainly got play, but it always felt like the DJs were slipping one in when they played it.
― grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
No more radio posts, back to the countdown!
^ read that in Casey Kasem's voice.
― we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
In related news, happy birthday Gary Numan!
Yaaay Rebel Rebel. I love his trashy voice in this one.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really understand how someone can not like this song, honestly.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
What can I say about 'Rebel Rebel'? That guitar riff clearly was some kind of gift from the Gods.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
I love the guitar tone of Rebel Rebel, but one of my friends used to sing "Rubble Rubble" like the Hamburgler (we were 9 or 10) and I've never been able to shake it. Sort of takes the song somewhere else so I've never been able to rate it properly.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
That same station I worked for had a promise to its listeners that it would play classic rock songs without profanity. (this was late 90s/00s.) Our engineer would go in and digitally bowdlerize all these songs we'd talk about.
Even that bit in "Life In the Fast Lane" - Our version went "We've been up and down that highway, haven't seen a zchepp-ychepp thing."
― pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
also, the sad, Jagger-esque breakdown/coda annoys me.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:41 AM (52 seconds ago)
I don't actively dislike it, but it's never moved or grabbed me really.
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
This one was an easy inclusion into my ballot. Some days I truly believe I could listen to that guitar riff endlessly.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
xps
I had a p decent classic rocl station; I heard Golden Years and Panic in Detroit
I def think AtYD is as much a cr staple as Under Pressure
― top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
US Radio is funny W/R/T Bowie: "Changes", "Space Oddity", "Fame" and "Young Americans" still get a fuckton of play on classic rock and oldies stations, at least up in the Boston area. "Let's Dance" and "Under Pressure" too. The other two big singles from "Let's Dance" you hear less but still occasionally, "Ashes to Ashes" gets some play on the near-extinct "modern rock" format, and that's basically it. I'm sure I've heard "Rebel Rebel" here and there, but that's basically it. I don't know if I've ever heard "Golden Years," one of his few top 10 hits in the States, on the radio. "Changes," on the other hand, missed the American top 40 entirely, yet I hear it all the fucking time. Which just goes to show that what we call a "hit" is deeply dependent on context of time and place, an obvious point that's often taken for granted.
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
I don't actively dislike it, but it's not as good as the Jean Genie.
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Don't understand why Panic in Detroit doesn't get nonstop airplay on classic rock radio.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
This riff was featured by Howard Goodall in his C4 show (which I love) as a prime use of dissonance. I presume he meant the 'DUNNNN' at the end.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
"Rebel Rebel" is the best guitar riff Bowie will ever write, hands down.
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
This poll has got me thinking whether Bowie might have been better served by never having a best-of at all. The distinction between canon and deep cut seems more and more arbitrary.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like Rebel Rebel more if it'd come out in '72, I think.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Rebel Rebel was definitely thw weakest of the early 70s stompy glammy rock hits imo. seemed looking back like a bit of a retread. you can see why it was the last of such things.
― piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
It would be a fantasy come true to infiltrate the underground bunker in Texas or whatever spot they beam out the standard oldies/classic rock satellite feeds, and completely rewrite the playlists. xp to f.hazel
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Everyone I've ever known who has super-loved Rebel Rebel has been female. Not that this means anything aside from the fact that the song appeals to women. Tore your dress, face is a mess, you're a hot tramp, I luv u, etc.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I think I initially voted "Rebel Rebel" and "Ashes to Ashes" both because those are my fave Bowie karaoke songs.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe it's the repetition. Did you also vote for Station to Station?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
I love how the beat on RR is 4-on-the-floor just like "Satisfaction".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
I love but don't "super-love" Rebel Rebel - it was top 10 for me. Mainly based on that riff - legions of Stones imitators would kill for less. I'm a dude.
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
I shit you not, based on the requests I used to get, I wouldn't doubt that Rebel Rebel has its fans in the South for the usual dumb reasons.
― pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't read this thread properly, missed the whole poll unfortunately, but I have super-loved Rebel Rebel and am male btw.
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Wouldn't surprise me at all.
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Lotta Star Wars fans down here.
― pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
9. "Suffragette City" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 663 points/26 votes/2 first-place votes
Album: http://youtu.be/S_68M0ilDe8Live in Chile, 1990: http://youtu.be/oIAZWzmOdf8
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
XP - And what exactly would "the usual dumb reasons" be?
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
"Thought I saw you in an ice cream parlour...." That verse and the way he sings it, perfect
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
"She's a total blam-blam!"
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
zomg More excited for this top 10 than usual
― billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Don't you know, man, The South's Gonna Rise Again! xp to thewufs
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link