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"The Detectives" was a TV show which unfortunately progressed well beyond the pilot stage, and starred Jasper Carrot (whose 1975 hit I won't mention) and Robert Powell as a pair of bumbling 'tecs. RP was Jesus in Franco Zefferelli's 1977 internatiTVbiblefest. Hence:

Gavin Bryars' "Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet".

― Michael Jones, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Blood, which is red (cf. Westlife), makes an appearance in Costello's "Blood and Chocolate". Coincidentally, Tom Waits has performed "Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet". He also wrote a song called "Chocolate Jesus," which isn't quite the same as the Flaming Lips' "Plastic Jesus".

― Josh, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Er, so that's the Costello I'm following up on, not the Flaming Lips, right?

The *other* EC took his surname from an area of East London, next to Hackney. Another word for hackneyed is 'trite', which makes me think of the (seemingly unconnected*) word 'contrite' and, specifically:

"An Heart That's Broken and Contrite" by John Dowland.

(*Well, how do you get from 'commonplace' to 'remorseful' just by sticking 'con-' in front of something? The Pinefox and I have wasted entire afternoons in South London parks on topics like this).

― Michael Jones, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

[Hey, don't ask Old-Pedant-Holds-Forth type Qs on a thread where Old Pedant is not allowed to Hold Forth!! Ans = both from root Latin terere/tritus, to rub or bruise. Trite = worn. Contrite = penitent = bruised eg from self-flag'n]

― mark s, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Highest-charting (only?) hit single in Latin is "Gaudete" by Steeleye Span, which reached its chart peak in Christmas week 1973 when the number one was "Merry Xmas Everybody" by Slade.

― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Slade was the name of the prison in 'Porridge', the protagonist of said sitcom being Fletcher, played by Ronnie Barker. One time Gamesmaster host Dexter Fletcher was in the abysmal 'Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels', which featured 'Hundred Mile High City' by the even worse Ocean Colour Scene on the soundtrack.

― DG, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

See what happens when you invoke the pedant? It's become complete unstuck!! Repair job = Dowland played the lute which is a kind of mandolin, which is an instrument not heard much since Rod Stewart's solo LPs: Rod the Mod loves football which is where Vinnie Jones comes in. Another musican called Vinnie is Vinnie Reilly formerly of Ed Banger and Nosebleeds, who recorded "Ain't Bin to No Music School". (Phew)

― mark s, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels (which I quite liked) featured many "Guns", hence Negativland.

― bnw, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Vini Reilly went on to the Durutti Column who recorded a track called "Otis" constructed around Otis Redding cut-ups. Otis Redding's first major UK hit was "My Girl" written by Smokey Robinson.

― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Smokey Robinson's "Tears Of A Clown" was covered by The [English] Beat.

― Patrick, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Obvious Offer #2: The Go-Go's. "We've Got the Beat". Duuuur. (Anyone want to make a connection to EU?)

― David Raposa, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Carmine Appice of the Vanilla Fudge -- who recorded an album called The Beat Goes On -- went on to tour with Jeff Beck, and criticized fellow Beck-bandmate Kim Milford (a vocalist who'd worked on Jesus Christ Superstar) as "...like a go-go dancer. The crowd couldn't take him."

― Phil, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Norman Greenbaum had a song called "Spirit In THe Sky" in which he sez he gotta friend in Jesus.

― JM, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

SITS was covered by Elton John

― Stevie Nixed, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And George Michael was busted in a john, so Careless Whispers oughta do it.

― Geoff, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Guilty feet ain't got no rhythm", sings Yog. Gershwin kind of backs this up in "I Got Rhythm" where he says that Ol man trouble won't come knocking at his door (cuz, presumably, he is innocent). That said James Brown claimed that "I got rhythms I haven't used yet" and he *was* guilty (of speeding). So therefore Foetus, "Free James Brown (So He Can Run Me Down)".

― Tom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

There's some joke (the precise form of which I've forgotten) involving George Michael and the UK chocolate bar Wispa... which makes me think of Bounty and hence:

Kid Creole and the Coconuts: "Stool Pigeon"

(Mark S: that was top-kwal info, ta. Perhaps Southwark Council could pay you to be the Pedant In The Park, sparing Foxy and I such open-space puzzlement).

― Michael Jones, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Doh! Divergence...

Coconuts contain milk. Foetuses (foeti?) *don't*, but they do need plenty of the stuff shortly after they've stopped being foetuses (foeti?). Hence:

Partick Hernandez: "Born To Be Alive".

― Michael Jones, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

(Oops... Partick Hernandez later became Partick Thistle, of course; am I back on the stats page, yet?).

― Michael Jones, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Madonna applied for the backing band of Hernandez in the early eighties/ late seventies.

― Stevie Nixed, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Los Bros Hernandes wrote the fabulous comic, Love and Rockets.

Love and Rockets evolved out of twisted art school glam gone goth band, Bauhaus.

― masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Bauhaus is an art style. White Stripes released De Stijl.

― Stevie Nixed, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Stijl Pulse released 'Handsworth Revolution'. The Revolution was Prince's back-up band. Prince's middle name is Nelson. Nelson only had one arm, just like Def Leppard's drummer, whose song embrace-the-apocalypse song "Armageddon It" roXor.

― mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Human League like Def Leppard are from Sheffield and are soon to release an new album Secrets.

― DJ Martian, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"My Secret Garden" by Depeche Mode comes off of the amazingly patchy album _A Broken Frame_. (I hope I did that right...)

― Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And who could forget Roddy Frame, leader of Aztec Camera who started off on the legendary Postcard label?

― Nicole, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

On which Josef K recorded the "Radio Drill Time" 45

― Dr. C, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Josef K is not to be confused with Tonio K, who called Jackson Browne a motherfucker on his first album.

― Patrick, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jackson Browne's 'From Silver Lake' is mentioned in the Field Mice's "And Before The First Kiss"

― Nick, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And by the way, I'm mad as hell for this thread being started without my permission. Can't a man bide his time, goddamit?

― Nick, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Some people were mad as hell about Pearl Jam's turgid cover of "Last Kiss".

― Nicole, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"One More Kiss" (then we're history) was a fabulous song by Californian neo-psych/shoegazing band, Medicine.

― masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

D'oh, I mean, "One Last Kiss". I can't even get lyrics right today.

― masonic boom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Just One Kiss" by the Cure is just the thing to reverse the effects of Bon Jovi's "Bad Medicine".

― Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

_One Last Kiss_ was an indie-pop compilation released by SpinArt Records back in The Day (TM), and, among many other songs, featured a quite young Magnetic Fields (w/ Susan Anway on vocals, if I'm not mistaken) performing "100,000 Fireflies". Of course, one reason that the Mag. Fields quickly ascended the indie-rock ladder was due in no small part to Superchunk, whose version of "100,000 Fireflies" is probably more known than the original version.

Superchuck once recorded a song called "Cool". Not far from the 'Chunk's home state of North Carolina (though a few years before their time), Pylon (Athens, GA) also recorded a song called "Cool". Silkworm (ah, "indie rock") once referenced "clipping the pylon's edge" ("It's a rookie mistake / It'll end on the rookie's head") in a song ("Tarnished Angel") on their first release for Matador Records, _Firewater_. (Of course, Matador Records was once home to, yes, Superchunk.)

And I'm spent.

― David Raposa, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Silkworm'sFirewater was...*engineered* by Albini who was in a few *disco* bands such as Rapeman, Big Black and Shellac.

― Stevie Nixed, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Big Black was on Touch and Go, as was the Jesus Lizard. Bang.

― bnw, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Lizard' was an album by King Crimson, and 'The Crimson Idol' was a record by W*A*S*P

― tarden, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

W*A*S*P was rumored to stand for "We Are Sexual Perverts" (at least at my school). "Perverts" is a song on

the new Thou album ..!!

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Thousand Yard Stare was a low-rank shoegazer outfit who got their name from a syndrome suffered by grunts in Vietnam. Vietnam was the name of an LP by Shockabilly, the band that starred Eugene Chadbourne, who sometimes plays electric rake.

― mark s, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Thou' is an old imperial unit, equal to 1/1000th of an inch. I understand the term 'mil' is preferred in the US. Hence:

Milli Vanilli: "Girl You Know It's True"

― Michael Jones, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

...and that fella out of Milli Vanilli was easily as *tall* as a rake, so no divergence there...

― Michael Jones, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Eugene Chadbourne's "Perverts of Northridge" is kind of a stupid song, and so is "Girl You Know It's True" -- The Rolling Stones' "Stupid Girl" was covered by Garbage and released as a single in 1996.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

...and, since Bon Jovi _is_ garbage, I can tie up my mini-divergence from a couple of posts back by mentioning "I'll Be There For You"!

― Dan Perry, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Which is also the title of the theme song from "Friends" which has been shown in the UK on Sky One which is cross-owned with The Sun. The album "Nothing Like The Sun" was by Sting.

― Robin Carmody, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well, "I Don't Believe in the Sun".

― Josh, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

There was a time when Cher's "Believe" was inescapable. Plus: She married "SON"ny Bono! ( sorry.)

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"The Beat Goes On" by the All Seeing I was a danced-up reworking of the same song by Sonny and Cher. Meanwhile, "New Years Dub" by Some Chancer was recently a danced up version of "New Years Day" by U2 featuring that other Bono. The beat from NYD though had been used 7 years before on:

DJ Shadow - Lost And Found

― Tom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Another Shadow, Morton of that ilk, produced the Shangri-Las, whose "Past, Present And Future" was the structural starting point for "Various Times" by The Fall.

― Robin Carmody, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

DJ Shadow no doubt "lost and found" many different things at his home in the Temescal apartment complex on Sycamore street in Davis, California, where he used to live (across the street from me!) The fact that sycamores are native to Egypt is a piece of botanical trivia no doubt lost upon Pharoah Sanders who titled himself after the rulers of ancient Egypt, who currently lives about a half hour away from Davis, California, and who used to cut records with Wah Wah Watson -- who can be said to be to the guitar what Jah Wobble is to the bass. Therefore, PIL's "Careering".

― Kris, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

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(hey sorry to interrupt the flow, but Mike Love recorded "Alone Again Or" - where, when?)

― duane, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(Jump from Mike Love to the band Love.)

― Josh, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sam & Dave's big hit was 'Soul Man', which lent its title to a dreadful 1986 film in which C. Thomas Howell blacks up in order to win a ethnic minority scholarship to Harvard. I see that Howell's illustrious Hollywood career extends to small part in 1995 Liz Hurley flash-vehicle 'Mad Dogs & Englishmen', named after the Noel Coward song.

― Nick, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mad Dogs & Englishmen also being a live Joe Cocker album -> doo-wop group the Spaniels.

― Patrick, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

When cocker spaniels are young and thin (like Jarvis), they would be a Skinny Puppy. The Pup moved from Nettwerk to American, the home of Wesley Willis. Wesley Willis not only wrote a song called "I Whipped Batman's Ass", he also wrote an ode to Silverchair.

― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Silverchair are a Nirvana from Australia, and Savage Garden are from Australia but more like Erasure. Eraser Errata are a art-punk girl band who opened for Unwound. Unwound's newest album is "Leaves Turn Inside You" and Sonic Youth had an album titled "A Thousand Leaves" and a thousand is 1k and Sleater-Kinney had a song about Y2k titled "Banned From The End of The World" and it was on their album "The Hot Rock" and "Hot Rocks" of course was the title of the Rolling Stones best-of, and a man was murdered when the stones played Altamont, and Ornette Coleman played ALTO SAX. Coleman played jazz, but if he played rock he might have had more groupies and then ALOT OF SEX, and David Lee Roth of Van Halen did indeed have many groupies.

― Sterling Clover, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

David Lee Roth to Dave Lee Travis. Travis is a band that a lot of people on this board find intensely annoying. However, members of Travis have been known to be fans of... THE LOLLIES!!!

― masonic boom, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Lollies are of course d**mpatrol's favorite band, said individual notoriously being an alleged friend of Alan McGee, which leads us to "Me And Bobby McGee" by Kris Kristofferson.

― Patrick, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Kristofferson was a Rhodes scholar, as was Bill Clinton, who became synonymous with certain activities, thus "The Bitch Sucks Dick" by Oaktown's finest Too $hort

― tarden, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Paul Simon, who is very short, is (or used to be) married to the much taller Edie Brickell, whose second album had John Lydon doing backing vocals. PIL's "Religion" leads us to Pope John Paul II's Abba Pater album. Abba's "Does Your Mother Know" had Bjorn or Benny singing lead vocals, kind of like how The Pogues' Cait O'Riordan sang a rare female lead vocal on "I'm A Man You Don't Meet Everyday".

― Patrick, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Everyday" is a stand-out track on the last Sea and Cake album 'Oui'. 'Oui' is French for 'Yes', and if Yes had *been* French their lead singer's name would have been 'Jean'. So,

"Blue Jean", by Mr David Bowie.

― Michael Jones, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Billy Jean is not my lover. Once and for all.

― JM, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

OK, Michael wins.

― Josh, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh, and no, I don't know what the prize will be yet, since you live in London (is that still correct?), Michael, whereas I do not.

― Josh, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Cripes! I've only just seen this! My luck really is changing...

Yes, I do live in London and I'd *like* to say that closing this thread (and so gaining the right to - gasp - *start one of my own*) and emulating Dastoor is its own reward. But it's not. I want a pint of gin like what Nick got.

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, maybe I will work something out with Tom. But I still think a pint of gin is a bit much. ;)

― Josh, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

six months pass...

In reply to: Carmine Appice of the Vanilla Fudge -- who recorded an album called The Beat Goes On -- went on to tour with Jeff Beck, and criticized fellow Beck-bandmate Kim Milford (a vocalist who'd worked on Jesus Christ Superstar) as "...like a go-go dancer. The crowd couldn't take him."

-- Phil (phil@masstransfer.net), June 17, 2001.

***Appice and Beck were stupid for not keeping Kim Milford; that man had vocals that could soar! Too bad Beck and Appices egos were so fragile that they had to play so loud they drowned him out in concert. They could have used a great singer like Kim;; why do you think beck picked him after hearing him in Jesus Christ Superstar? Because he thought he had a great voice...too bad Beck didn't like playing with someone more talented than himself.

― Mary Ann, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

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