wait no, that needs an apostrophe
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i think
you're contracting it and has, so the apostrophe works.
― elan, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link
just got the Petar Dundov - Escapements album. only heard it twice so far but it's fantastic. some ambient tracks, some detroit elements, some trancey bits.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw Martinez Bros. dj in new york without knowing who they were (I only looked on the internet afterward and saw all the "omg theyr in high school" writeups) and I thought it was great, their enthusiasm was infectious, it was fun to watch em play with huge smiles on their faces and everyone in the booth with em doing a whiplash neckbounce to every track
they did play some pop songs like Crystal Waters but it wasn't the majority
― dmr, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
It says on the new Kompakt site that their new online store will be up in March.
That's good. I've always liked the selection on their site, but the interface was truely awful.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 15 January 2009 11:48 (fifteen years ago) link
their interface was indeed vile
― Local Garda, Thursday, 15 January 2009 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Haven't heard the Martinez Brothers live because I literally never go to the few remaining big rooms left in NYC, but I'm glad there is anything that gets the kids into EDM and if they're playing poppy stuff too then good! I never understood why so many Americans hate electronic music when most music that is popular here is actually made with the same machines and programs as techno. I'm not looking for an answer to this question but TMB can be a positive force if they point out this fact to a younger crowd.
Also, Seth Troxler's best release of last year was done with Pat Russell--"Valt Trax" on Circus Company. Superb and trippy dark stuff.
― saudade, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
wait, martinez bros play ebm?
― rio (r1o natsume), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.kompakt.fm/blog/3voL2oiGLiJ4
new online store in March for physical records but all mps through beatport from now on.
― king lame (c sharp major), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
a positive force?
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
After reading the first part of the looking back on 2008 feature on RA, and subsequently downloading the Tolga Fidan remix of Dilo (Somehow I was blown away when I first heard him in 2007, and then just kind of forgot about how good he is) and the Anthony Collins remix of Kreon and Lemos, I must say, these are some pretty masterful tracks.
― mehlt, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link
tail-end 2008 stuff i have been enjoying:
le chien perdu - handsome interruption (i'm really a big sucker for staccato cut-up vocals in techno)milton channels - black is black (MASSIVE tech house track)
― armatrader joan's (donna rouge), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link
would like to hear a radio slave mix of that "black is black" track
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link
ben klock album is fantastic, maybe not something to be played end to end but full of great tracks and not much of your average techno artists album filler or downtempo bits
― straightola, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link
New Gui Boratto album is streaming here
― Number None, Sunday, 25 January 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm REALLY feeling kreon's 'jauce' - it's the track that sebo k's 'diva' promised but didn't deliver. anyone know what the sample's from?
― lex pretend, Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Jauce is great as is the Masomenos collab Eps. The cute graphics are a nice touch too.
― mmmm, Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone here the MXM record on Philpot from last year? really like that, just picked it up.
and moonship, "black is black" as in the one by Belle Epoque? or los bravas? or extravagance.?
― the table is the table, Monday, 26 January 2009 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i've been loving the productions from Lerosa. I can't get enough of his sound right now.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 26 January 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean "black is black" by milton channels. it's a little too hectic for my taste.
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 26 January 2009 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link
desire, the nicolette + john tejada track on where (palette recordings) is absolutely perfect.need to dig out her solo album from way back, as i think it needs more love.
― mark e, Monday, 26 January 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
The new Intrusion album, The Seduction of Silence, is fantastic. Nice and dubby.
― mr. anephric (the anephric project), Monday, 26 January 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Produced by Plaid.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
IIRC nicolette did a really nice installment of dj kicks back in the day. yeah, this one, also with assistance from plaid
― tricky, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
"i've been loving the productions from Lerosa. I can't get enough of his sound right now.
― brotherlovesdub"
little BSP here, but we have a nice interview with him along with a free .wav DL of a track exclusive to us:
http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/12/08/lerosa-straight-outta-killester/
leo is the man, he keeps getting better and better!
― pipecock, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Personally I find Lerosa's sound to be the most bland and boring of the bunch of producers making that style of deep-house. It's like Move D with even fewer interesting melodies or grooves to get excited about.
That said, I'm not incredibly well versed on his stuff, so perhaps I'm just ignorant.
― littlewhiteearbuds, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Seconded on the Intrusion album, a great step for Stephen.
― littlewhiteearbuds, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i wouldn't even really compare Lerosa to Move D at all. to me, he sounds like someone who should have been releasing records on Track Mode, not any specific producer but certainly in that same vein of feeling. definitely far more US deep house feeling than Move D or most other Euro producers.
― pipecock, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
too bad "us deep house feeling", as a whole, got ridden into the ground in 2008
― ☪, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I agree, Lerosa and Move D should be filed together in the record shop but their sounds are not the same. Lerosa sounds more like long lost Carl Craig demos than anything else. I'm sure that's me projecting what I want to hear in them but i've been listening to nothing else all weekend. I've just spent 30 bones on Juno downloading 320s of all his EPs and remixes despite having downloaded them from rapidshare already. All of this because for the 2nd time in a month the one track that was spectacular enough to make me ask the DJ what it was turned out to be Lerosa.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
That's awesome. Again, I'm more than willing to be wrong if it means good music is to be had.
Anyone care to point out his essential tracks?
― littlewhiteearbuds, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I like the Seeker EP best but really they all have good shit on them.
― pipecock, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Arctor off the Lovers EP is one of my favs.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
What does everyone think of the "new" Beatport?
― littlewhiteearbuds, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Circadia on the same EP is also great. I'm a sucker for those round fat synth melodies that remind me of the best acid house classics. Since i made the Carl Craig demo comment above, i'll make another ridiculous connection here and say Circadia sounds like something Mr. Fingers would have done if he was better at programming drum patterns.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
playlist feature is kind of nice I guess, a 'next' button would be great, site WAY slow now, too much minimal/prog/tech-house promotion still, seems like they put any techno record that is faster than 132 bpm in the 'hardcore/hard techno' ghetto.
― sous les paves, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I'll bite. why didn't I buy any of those records in 2008? being a huge us deep house feeling enthusiast I was ready to give in and rep something from that mainly teutonic wave of appropriation. but no, it was a lame attempt at replicating stuff produced 15 years ago, turning it into a kind of fetishized museum piece. with some tedious and vibeless experimentation coaxing the requisite kneejerk responses from confused, nervous crowds.
― blunt, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
probably my fault for thinking ilm was all happy cooks instead of one big mouthpiece for the cafeteria menu.
― blunt, Monday, 26 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i'll make another ridiculous connection here and say Circadia sounds like something Mr. Fingers would have done if he was better at programming drum patterns.
This statement is ridiculous. You need to go back and listen to Washing Machine and study those drums to see how far out you can push a 707. Even his restrained tasteful 707 stuff like Love Mystery or Mysteries of Love is perfect. I am not trying to trash talk Lerosa but his shit is playschool compared to Larry Heard.
That is a nice way to describe the board.
My music money went to used records and recording hardware last year. I mainly bought used NYC and Chicago records with a bit of electro thrown in for good measure. If nu-deep house wasn't the way to go in 2008, what were you buying instead?
― Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Display Name), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
the usual deep house from the usual US artists, some used. there was little to go by on in the new dept- and nothing in the 'nu' dept. I did buy a whole lot of dub CDs including all the Scientist I could find.
― blunt, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link
also enjoyed Quarion's remix of Andres Garcia "No More Tears" last year- caveat/full disclosure, both are friends. it was a pretty quiet year...
― blunt, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link
i can hear Washing Machine from start to finish without ever actually playing it again. it's fused into my mind. i don't personally believe putting a simple delay on the drum sounds = interesting drum programming. there's nothing that complex or interesting about the drums on Washing Machine. it's a bit of delay on the secondary rhythms while the kicks stay steady. i'm not saying i'd take Lerosa over Larry Heard or even that he's remotely as classic or talented but this is the 09 bobbins and i am bobbin to Lerosa in 09.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link
There is a lot more going on in Washing Machine besides delay. What is happening on that track is that every sound on the 707 is being run out to the board on an individual channel. He has an analogue delay set up on one of the aux sends and the send is running back to the board. What he is doing is delaying individual channels on the fly while the 707 plays through the song in track mode, all that shit is being done in real time by hand. It isn't just one delay part, it switches up all the time and he is grabbing a different drum sound every four bars. He is also adjusting the delay itself through out the track so that the delay jumbles and stretches out depending on where he is in the song. He also can mute the delay channel so he can surge the delay and then slam the channel shut and emphasize the start of the next bar.
The drums themselves are really clever. I like the way he uses the the open hat to denote bar lines without resorting to loud claps on two and four. I also like the way he used to claps to add syncopation and played them off the lo tom, the tambourine and closed hat. It is a simple track based on 8 four bar loops and an empty pattern that repeat in a cycle. They way he pulled off that track was about as elegant as you can get on a 707. It is real subtle and he doesn't beat you over the head with his changes. If you are really listening every pattern flows builds into the next one and then the cycle turns around without losing any energy.
While all of this is happening he is working the board, grabbing some drums from patterns, muting others, cutting them in and out on the mixer while also sending different individual drums though the delay. None of this was done on a computer, this is all being done by hand in real time.
If you can hear every bar of that track in your head from start to finish I am impressed.
This was pretty hot for 2008 bobbins: http://www.discogs.com/Larry-Heard-25-Years-From-Alpha/release/1531473
Speaking of 09 bobbins, has anyone heard this yet: http://www.discogs.com/Mr-White-Aeroplane/release/1620206
― Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Display Name), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Just gave that Mr White record a listen on Boomkat, not so much.
― Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Display Name), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
larry heard is the eddie van halen of drum machine, haven't you heard
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link
wow so funny and accurate. props vahid the funny accurate man.
I think creative lulls of a few years are usually not a problem within genres and give time to digest gluts of new stuff or other genres, but in deep house things have been lean for a while now (yes I am ignoring the new business environment). I think it works as a nearly extinct special interest niche, confined to ritual extended-family type clubbing, no longer technology-centric or associated with paroxsytic drugginess and a drive to be overwhelmed and absorbed in a large crowd. it has dispensed with a consumerist obsession for the new and cool. maybe that's also how it avoids being lumped in with the mainstream house and corresponding club experience.
thre are people old enough to be your mom and dad, getting in tune with themselves, each other and the world by playing and making dance music which comprises instruments and/or vocals to express and incite feelings. in a freakishly cult-like, endearing or infuriating but always harmless way, most of those feelings are intended as positive reinforcements or illustrations of lovely or constructive ways to work through negative experiences. ideally the music does the talking and people spontaneously fill in the blanks from time to time. sometimes I wish it were different but like sometimes I wish life was different.
the hypnotic nature of certain sounds and the fact that 22%, 97% or another fraction of any given record uses electronic means and devices is both a given and secondary, one of the things that connects it to a larger culture and the times in general but can never be in focus. in this subculture people hardly see any point in dissecting, talking or writing about the music and their experience (but some people could do that well) nor do they feel the need to lionize their DJs except maybe in larger, supposedly cool cities. If they do so it's probably because he or she is one of few.
I'm afraid the whole thing doesn't really lend itself to talking about it. not online, not in magazines and especially not on the floor. Shut up and dance.
― blunt, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:11 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ neither funny nor accurate
:-(
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I did try harder tho!
― blunt, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link
try not ruining the thread
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I think we should have a YouTube Embends Only rule for the 2010 thread.
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
max stopped breathing before it was cool
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, first Kurt was taken from us, then Minimal, it's like, I don't even know anymore man...
― EDB, Friday, 8 January 2010 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link
RT @Josephhallam84 So, someones deleted Random Circuits so it no longer exists, how pathetic! All our work, mixes, gone forever!
so so sad, man..
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
still no new thread?
http://mnmlssg.blogspot.com/2010/01/mnml-ssgs-mx48-redshape.html
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Saturday, 23 January 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Rolling Dance Partisans 2010 (Also bobbin, bobbins, bobbins!)
― EDB, Saturday, 23 January 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link